Newbie question -- will TI-84 apps run on Nspire?

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dp

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Aug 30, 2010, 7:35:19 PM8/30/10
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We have just started using TI-Nspire. We have requested the TI-84
keypad but have not received it. I tried installing some TI-84 apps
through TI-Connect, but the app file format was not recognized. Will
we be able to install TI-84 apps once we have the TI-84 keypad?

Nelson Sousa

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Aug 30, 2010, 7:50:25 PM8/30/10
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quick and short answer: nop.
(somewhat) longer answer: you need the 84Plus keypad to run 84+ apps.

Nelson


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Sean Bird

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Aug 30, 2010, 7:52:57 PM8/30/10
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I say, "what app do you want to install?"
Then after you tell me which one, I'd generally say, "You don't need that, the TI-Nspire does it better by the way it was designed. It doesn't need extra apps, the interconnectedness of the calculator page, graphs, geometry, Lists & Spreadsheet, Notes, and Data & Statistics are far superior to starting apps. For example, instead of using the inequality app, on a graph page, delete/backspace over the equal sign and there are all the options to graph an inequality."

Install your TI-Nspire software. When you plug in your Nspire it will recognize it and you can send files from you computer to handheld and from your handheld to the computer. Look in the Content Explorer (under window or the tab at the bottom left of the software).

To answer your question, yes you can install apps when you put the 84 keypad on it.

- Sean Bird
Indianapolis

Kinewey

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Aug 31, 2010, 7:38:19 PM8/31/10
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Ah yes..... but I do wish the Timer APP was available!!!

On Aug 30, 7:52 pm, Sean Bird <covenantb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I say, "what app do you want to install?"
> Then after you tell me which one, I'd generally say, "You don't need that,
> the TI-Nspire does it better by the way it was designed. It doesn't need
> extra apps, the interconnectedness of the calculator page, graphs, geometry,
> Lists & Spreadsheet, Notes, and Data & Statistics are far superior to
> starting apps. For example, instead of using the inequality app, on a graph
> page, delete/backspace over the equal sign and there are all the options to
> graph an inequality."
>
> Install your TI-Nspire software. When you plug in your Nspire it will
> recognize it and you can send files from you computer to handheld and from
> your handheld to the computer. Look in the Content Explorer (under window or
> the tab at the bottom left of the software).
>
> To answer your question, yes you can install apps when you put the 84 keypad
> on it.
>
> - Sean Bird

Nelson Sousa

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Aug 31, 2010, 7:46:38 PM8/31/10
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that's one of the few you can't have.

But you have a bunch of probability simulators, a Periodic table, an Organizer, unit conversion and constants (the Nspire CAS has them included on the OS, the numeric Nspire requires programs to do that), 3D geometry and a few others on my site (www.nelsonsousa.pt), plus a bunch of other stuff on other people's sites (see the links section).

The Nspire OS already includes the polynomial root finder and simultaneous equation solver, 2D geometry (and better than Cabri Jr), inequalities (ok, this one not as good as in the 84+), graphic animation (better than the Transform App), the spreadsheet and catalog help. A probably a few others I can't remember from the top of my head.

I think this covers something like 2/3 of the available 84+ apps on TI's site. Ok, you can't have a real time clock. :)


Cheers,
Nelson

tmb-Travis

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Aug 31, 2010, 9:50:24 PM8/31/10
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dp, make the break from 84!
The integrated nature of the Nspire just keeps getting better and
better as I learn to use them within the same document.
No one mentioned the programming aspect. I am growing accustomed to
it--learning some new terms input/prompt for request for example. I
go either way on games--kids who program games, cool. Kids who play
button pushing shoot 'em games drain my energy. Not many games on
Nspire (yet), but some are having fun making geometry designs!

My concern is that students might have a class next year that does not
use the Nspire, so they may 'get the chance' to learn it old skool on
the 84--let's make lemonade, since we have lemons. oh well.

Fortunately I have 10 for in class, so the remnant who have 84, I just
have them learn the Nspire and use 84 at home, with a minimal 84
instruction; not he best, but it is transition year for us.

I have yet to find Conics on Nspire, but haven't looked much. One
thing at a time--and conics are next semester....
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Nelson Sousa

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Sep 1, 2010, 5:03:05 AM9/1/10
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There's a conic library for the Nspire CAS. Nor for the numeric Nspire, though.

Nelson

dp

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Sep 1, 2010, 9:22:42 AM9/1/10
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Thanks a lot everyone! We are still waiting for the TI-84 keypad to
arrive.

I am parent of a kid who won the Nspire as an award. He is very
familiar with the TI-84, but is just beginning to figure this one
out. The app that he wants to use immediately was the Organizer app
that he hopes to use in place of the paper planner. Is that a good
idea?

Another question. He is definitely going to be using Nspire for his
high school math classes. He is quite adept at Excel and VBA
programming and he has a new license for Mathematica that he is
beginning to explore. Would it be a good idea for him to learn to
program Nspire as well?

Nelson Sousa

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Sep 1, 2010, 9:43:48 AM9/1/10
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The organizer I built is somewhat (ok, very) limited, but includes support for repeating events (yearly only), a calendar view and a phonebook with search capabilities.

It's not much, but it's better than nothing ;)

You can download it from here:


Nelson

Eric Findlay

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Sep 2, 2010, 1:50:57 AM9/2/10
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I would assume that using the 84 Organizer would work, however, I
haven't tried using apps with appVars, so I don't know if they persist
between faceplate swaps. Also, even if it's "possible," if he's mainly
using the Nspire faceplate, then he's going to experience quite the wait
in switching to the 84 plate only for the organizer - about a minute at
worst.

If he has experience with VB, then learning Nspire programming shouldn't
be terribly difficult. It's more like C++ or Java, though. I (as a
programmer) think it would be very beneficial for him to learn to use
the Nspire programming capabilities. When experimenting with
programming, he can reinforce the knowledge that he's learning in (or
out of) class.

I've also found that writing the same program in different languages has
helped me become better at programming in general because it forces me
to think outside the box when it comes to algorithms. How do I program
that function that's built into the other language?

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