Everyone who is denying the fact that this is already happening, is too self centred on what their opinion is of Altaf or is not progressive. Also, this discussion is just about the music not about what kind of person he is or anything personal to him. Look at his views on YouTube, it's not even been a week he'll be crossing 1M on 3 to 4 songs that too just on audio release.
Travis Scott, young thug, future and many faced the same denial by mass audience that MC stan is facing but they created the audience now everyone is on their wave. Every true revolutionary rap artist faced this rejection because of the new sound they bring, Kanye too. The use of vocals through modulation which stan is doing is crazy. Weekend is one of the artists whose using it to perfection.
"Nothing's Gonna Stop Me Now" is the theme song to the television show Perfect Strangers and performed by David Pomeranz. It was written by Jesse Frederick and Bennett Salvay, who composed the themes for Full House, Step by Step, and Perfect Strangers spin-off Family Matters.
The Five Stairsteps' only pop Top 40 hit, "O-o-h Child" would be the group's last R&B top 40 hit (they had several top 40 R&B hits in the 1960s) until 1976's "From Us to You". Included on the band's The Stairsteps album from 1970, it has become the Stairsteps' signature song and has inspired more than twenty covers since its release. The song featured various members, including lone female member and eldest sister Alohe, brothers Keni, Dennis, James, lead singer Clarence Burke Jr. singing in various parts of the song.
The lyrics tell the listener that "things are gonna get easier" in times of strife. The song's uplifting message helped it to become popular among pop and rhythm and blues audiences when it was released.
AllMusic review by Joe Viglione: "Producer Stan Vincent's Top Ten hit for the Stairsteps, "O-o-h Child," was one of those bright, memorable, sterling songs which, as with Alive 'N Kickin's "Tighter, Tighter," made the summer of 1970 so memorable."[4]
Stan Vincent (born Stanley Grochowski, 1944) is an American record producer/arranger best known for the Top Ten hits "I'm Gonna Make You Mine" by Lou Christie and "O-o-h Child" by Five Stairsteps. He is also a composer notably having written "O-o-h Child" and several songs recorded by Connie Francis. Stan Vincent also assisted in the making of the 1980 Double Fantasy album by John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
Vincent had several songs recorded by Connie Francis, notably her hit singles "Drownin' My Sorrows" (1963) and "Looking For Love" (1964), the latter being the title song for a cinematic vehicle for Francis - see Looking for Love - in which she sang two other Vincent compositions: "Let's Have a Party" and "When the Clock Strikes Midnight". Francis also recorded the Stan Vincent compositions "Lollipop Lips", "Whatever Happened to Rosemarie" and "Tommy" to serve as the B-sides to her hits "If My Pillow Could Talk" (1962)"Your Other Love" (1963), and "Be Anything (but Be Mine)" (1963). The compositions which Vincent placed with Francis were all co-written with Hank Hunter.[4]
By 1968 Vincent was working for Buddah Records as an in-house producer/arranger and songwriter. In the autumn of 1969 Lou Christie hit #10 nationally with "I'm Gonna Make You Mine" produced and arranged by Vincent: the track was more successful in the UK reaching #2 there. In the summer of 1970 the Five Stairsteps hit #8 with "O-o-h Child" which Vincent not only produced and arranged but composed. Originally intended as the B-side of the 5 Stairsteps' version of "Dear Prudence", "O-o-h Child" has subsequently been remade by over twenty artists, with the 1993 remake - entitled "Ooh Child" - by Dino reaching #27.
"I'm Gonna Make You Mine" is a song released in 1969 by Lou Christie. It was featured on his 1969 album I'm Gonna Make You Mine,[3] arranged by Stan Vincent and produced by Vincent and Mike Duckman.[4]
Bob Kenselaar is former assistant curator of the Institute of Jazz Studies, Rutgers University, and longtime staff member at The New York Public Library, where he started as a music and sound recordings librarian at NYPL's Library for the Performing Arts.
Marvin Marsh just turned 102 years old and is miserable. He tries to persuade his grandson, Stan Marsh, to murder him through assisted suicide. In an attempt to show Stan what it is like to be old, Marvin plays to him a cassette tape of this song in a dark, locked room.
When I think of staning I mean follow the group actively by watching their videos and toning into their lives and what not. However, I think it is a bit weird, imo, as an adult to watch a livestream of teenagers whether they be boys or girls. This isnt even getting into going to music shows or various other more proactive fan activities.
So do you think there comes a point where you age out of the whole "stanning" aspect of kpop and necessarily become more of a general fan? Basically only continuing to Stan the group/s you started with that are usually around your age and only general following younger groups.
I know someone 39. She watches suju, but stans nct and that honestly made me feel uncomfortable. Even if they have adult members. I use to be involved with shinee,not as much now. but I'm the same age as key and minho. I casually view other boy groups mainly because they all look like babies to me singing about love and grinding. That's uncomfortable. But with girl groups they sing a lot of songs that reflect their age and some of the dancing does too. I say the only awkward thing is some of the clothing choices. I will say their is a huge stigma when they older males stan younger girls groups if they aren't in the army or industry themselves. You know your comfort zone better than anyone else though.
If you like a group because they sing well, dance well, great personality, age is irrelevant. Not sure why people associate stanning someone with wanting to marry them or have their kids, that's a whole separate issue
I don't really watch lives (like I don't have weverse or whatever) or follow my faves social media. Maybe it's because I discovered kpop when I was already older so I mainly just listen to the music on spotify and watch their performances. I still consider myself a stan though because I love their music and support that as a group by listening, buying their albums, and attending their concerts. So I guess the answer is no, I don't have a limit just due to age. Having said that, I don't generally find my self drawn to the younger groups because I tend to find their music and/or concepts to be a bit too bright and kid-like for my tastes.
edit: i just realized the question lol. i dont see a problem with stanning anyone younger while being a lot older as long as you arent being gross. i just wouldnt stan anyone younger than a teenager as an adult. if i was a 30 year old female, who liked a group in their teens because they had good music, talents and variety skills why not stan? if im 30 im not gonna stop myself from stanning new gen kpop groups cause their all younger than me. i guess we'll find out my views on this in 15 years.
But what if you like the music a lot and play it all the time, buy the albums, and try to attend the shows? Like Ijust announced that I now stan P1Harmony, but tbh, I only know four out of six of their names off the top of my head lol. But if they came around on tour, I would totally drop a couple hundred to go see them perform.
I don't think so as long as you're not gross about it, as many said. I think there is a challenge not in you stanning, but other people's perception of your stanning, honestly. For instance, if you as a 39 year old, say a 14 year old is your favorite member of a group, people are going to take it a certain way, even if you weren't being gross.
I think I would say less that I am a stan as I age than just a big fan. I really like Purple Kiss a lot but I'm at this point with new groups where it's enough to enjoy the music and performances. I don't need to know their birthdays or favorite foods or whatever, ya know?
I'm talking about how Kpoopies stan a group. I dont know what bussiness have a 26 years old guy or girl(Sorry OP, i'm using You as example) seeing alot of Kpop content make exclusively by and for teenagers around 14. I man of 26 years is in a different place in life. I want to think must of this old people is only interesting in this groups for the music and see the members like little sisters or something benevolent. But the world is a dark place. I have my share of reality with anime fans, believe me, there is alot of perverts outside. So, listen the music is fine, i like newpants for example, but thats it.
How do "kpoopies" stan a group? Anyway, this seems a very dark view of the world. I guess I think better of people. I have met many wonderful fans of all ages on this website who love kpop and don't want to get into underage idols' pants. Yeah, there are some terrible people out there, but I think it's wrong to condemn fans who have done nothing wrong just because we have a narrow view of what music people should be allowed to enjoy. It also devalues kpop in general to boil down the music that these artists create into fodder exclusively to be enjoyed by children. I personally hope that my second and third generation faves (and any fourth and beyond faves that I acquire) get to continue to their careers for a long time, grow as artists, and get to be seen with respect.
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