Samsung Galaxy Note 3, Android 4.3 root, Logitech F710 wireless gamepad

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Hello and thans for the great app!

I have two issues that won't let me use it.

1) Transparent overlay is great, but it doesn't work with FIFA 14 so it is VERY hard to define controls.

2) Logitech F710 is wireless gamepad. Not bluetooth one, just wireless.It has small usb receiver. Also, gamepad has two modes: XINPUT and Direct input - there is a small switch. In direct input mode pad detected as normal logitech gamepad and in xinput mode it detected as xbox360 wireless contorller. Which is correct, same on PC.

In both modes it just works in android.

But in your mapper it disconnects randomly with "too many transmission errors" in both modes mode.

Maybe it caused by some powersaving feature of gamepad itself, but anyway it is not usable.

What do you think, is it possible to fix it?

[Tincore.]

Hi,

The color or transparency of the overlay is configurable, (Settings > UI) It is transparent by default because on some Android firmwares transparency has a tremendous performance impact.

Notice that there is already a server profile for FIFA.

About F710. I assume you are not rooted as using HID is much simpler. Are you using the latest version of the mapper? There are already fixes for that disconnection situation. It happened if you don't use the controller for a period of time. Is that your case?

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Sorry I forgot to mention - FIFA 14 mobile - this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ea.game.fifa14_row

Yes UI is transparent over launcher, but it is not transparent over FIFA 14.

I'm rooted, and I tried both system input methods and USB OTG. system input interferes with android native gamepad support, and usb org just disconnects randomly.

I'm using mapper version 3.1.5 - latest version from play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tincore.and.keymapper

It disconnects in less than a minute or even faster.

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 11:55:57 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

Latest version is 3.1.8. I think from 3.1.6 there are fixes for the disconnection issue.

Adjust transparency or just autodownload already made profile.

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Thanks! I'll update and check at home. Which method should I prefer for rooted phone?

xinput or directinput on gamepad?

hid or usb/otg in settings?

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 13:31:49 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

I think it is better if you disable USB/OTG and just use HID.

If you see that the gamepad is not showing the new standard codes (ABXY L1 L2 R1 R1 TL TR Se St) you can tell me and I will make that gamepad fully supported in HID mode as well. This is needed for the server profiles to work perfect.

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Those codes are for xinput mode or for directinput mode on gamepad?

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 13:58:30 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

You will have to try and tell me so I can adjust if needed. I don't have that gamepad.

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Which gamepad mode do you advice to use? xinput or directinput?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee417014(v=vs.85).aspx

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 14:02:37 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

Try xinput and if it does not work fine then try direct input. I do not have that controller or firmware.

El miércoles, 15 de enero de 2014 14:24:35 UTC+1, Василий Алибабаевич escribió:

Which mode you advise to use, xinput or direct input?

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 14:02:37 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

You will have to try and tell me so I can adjust if needed. I don't have that gamepad.

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Well - xinput mode - gamepad acts as xbox360 controller with two analogue triggers and vibration. In direct input mode it works just like any old usb pc gamepad. Is there support for xbox360-like controllers in mapper?

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 17:29:46 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

The apps work universally with any controller connected if you have support in the kernel and are rooted. 

If you do not have support in the kernel or you are not rooted is when you can use the USB/OTG.

If you use the universal kernel support mode it should work as xinput or direct. Use the mode that offers you more. If xinput has analog triggers I would use it. If you find anything wrong in xinput tell me and I'll adjust.

[Василий Алибабаевич]

Just quick update. New version works better definitely! It doesn't disconnect with transmission error anymore! That's great! Xinput and directinput both works but detected differently. That's correct.

Now little quirks:

1) Pad detected as HID generic xbox controller. All buttons were detected, but right and left analog triggers detected not as two axis, but as simple buttons. It is incorrect but acceptable (maybe it is kernel/hid issue).

2) Downloading game profiles is great feature, but a little useless, because there are different screen resolutions and dpis an all devices, so such profiles should be created for every resolution and dpi. On SGNote3 all controls from downloaded profile were in wrong places in FIFA 14 mobile. This is just a thing to consider in future improvements. Probably, every single game scale controls differently.

3) The worst thing is: overlay with controls editor either not transparent over FIFA 14 mobile, or FIFA hides itself from being seen under overlay. Maybe this is something with opengl adreno driver in snapdragon. Maybe this can be fixed, maybe not.

I would like to help with this, also I can update translations to russian in some places where it is missing. Also there are some non English translations here and there (you native spanish i guess :-).

среда, 15 января 2014 г., 17:42:13 UTC+4 пользователь Tincore. написал:

[Tincore.]

Hi,

El miércoles, 15 de enero de 2014 18:18:06 UTC+1, Василий Алибабаевич escribió:

Just quick update. New version works better definitely! It doesn't disconnect with transmission error anymore! That's great! Xinput and directinput both works but detected differently. That's correct.

Are there any differences in the buttons or axes? Do both report something similar to this?

http://docs.nvidia.com/tegra/Content/AN_GC_Quickdoc_Amalgamated_Gamepad.html

Now little quirks:

1) Pad detected as HID generic xbox controller. All buttons were detected, but right and left analog triggers detected not as two axis, but as simple buttons. It is incorrect but acceptable (maybe it is kernel/hid issue)

That is definitively HID implementation. USB/OTG mode will show them as analogs if data format is identical to xbox and buttons send analog data (not direct max value). I've already seen this kind of things with other controllers.

2) Downloading game profiles is great feature, but a little useless, because there are different screen resolutions and dpis an all devices, so such profiles should be created for every resolution and dpi. On SGNote3 all controls from downloaded profile were in wrong places in FIFA 14 mobile. This is just a thing to consider in future improvements. Probably, every single game scale controls differently.

I think it works pretty fine. Did you try FIFA? Only restriction is that games have to be full screen.

In the worst of the cases is a good guide for a user to adapt to his device.

 

3) The worst thing is: overlay with controls editor either not transparent over FIFA 14 mobile, or FIFA hides itself from being seen under overlay. Maybe this is something with opengl adreno driver in snapdragon. Maybe this can be fixed, maybe not.

It happens with some apps that check if they have something overlayed. For that I plan to add a solution soon.

I would like to help with this, also I can update translations to russian in some places where it is missing. Also there are some non English translations here and there (you native spanish i guess :-).

Great. Some people helped in the past for the language updates. Now it is just a few lines but they are important because they affect greatly at the help dialog.