Forever Yours Tabs

[Tina Popielarczyk]

Currentlythe slightest mistake in FF (e.g. closing windows in the wrong order) causes the user to lose all their pinned sites. If the user notices in time they can recover these lost pins, but why should they have to, and why would a browser ever remove sites when the user is clearly indicating that they are not yet done with them? This seems extremely counter-intuitive.

Some browsers, like Safari, now ensure that your pinned tabs appear at the top of every new window. This means that as a user you can say 'I'd like to read this later' and ensure the page(s) are (i) easily available (ii) prominently visible to serve as a reminder (iii) can be saved semi-permanently without cluttering up your bookmarks (iv) can be easily added and removed as necessary without the need to hunt through saved bookarmaks.

And if a user doesn't want this behaviour? An option to override it could be provided in which FF automatically delete the pins when it opens a new window. There could be a second option where subsequent windows simply hide pins (i.e. they only ever appear in the primary window).

This feels like it gives bookmarks and pinned pages much more defined roles.

Note: I'm still struggling to think why a user would want to pin a page if they didn't want it to persist until they unpinned it, and why they would not want a pinned page to carry over into a new browser window.

I choose not to retain browsing history from session to session. Because of this, I can't make effective use of the Pinned Tabs feature because their state is history-dependent. I don't think this should be the case.

I'm also pleading in favor of having this feature implemented and enabled by default. For me, the so-called pinned tabs help me start with a default browser window with my commonly used sites pinned as tabs. I also open other tabs in that window.

However, i also tend to drag some of them out of that window to create new ones (sometimes, to prevent distraction, other times to get a side by side view). (The "Restore windows upon startup" option in the setting can help, but it restores too much of the state when I reopen my browser.)

I have done this about 3 times in 2 weeks, it is not extremely painful, but it makes the experience a bit annoying. I am not sure if it is a bug or not, and about how to handle this one. I know that enforcing pinned tabs for everybody can be also a problem, as not everyone uses these pins for the same purpose.

- Add 2 options to "Save tabs" and "Restore tabs" in the contextual menus of the tabs area, so a saved set of selected tabs can be saved and restored. (Yes, I figured out recently that we had multi select of tabs and i love it! :))

I really prefer your browser to that DREADED Edge browser from MS. But, whenever I pin tabs in Firefox, they remain for several days and then for some reason one day they are ALL gone. I can say that on one ocassion it was after an Update, however, on the other multiple ocassions, I cannot say what caused them to vanish.

I sometimes shut down the browser by clicking the top right X and sometimes the Exit option in the menu..... but am uncertain as to why on some ocassions the tabs vanish the next time I load Firefox from the taskbar.

I agree with this!! If you have an open Firefox window and you make a pinned tab in it, then you open a second window (for whatever reason), if you accidentally close the first window...POOF!!! Your pinned tab is gone! This is ludicrous, why would you design it that way? Please fix this ASAP! I am stuck using Safari because of this issue.

The current design of discarding all pinned tabs in all windows when closing one window without pinned tabs is just the worst UX design. All other browser vendor's design teams know this, because this is how actual humans expect pined tabs to behave:

Mozilla then makes proper UX design into some sort of voting challenge here going on for years and probable for many years to come. One of the many reasons Firefox looses market share. Human-hostile design plain and simple

Additionally, just monitor `r/firefox` where every few days somebody posts about their confusion with how pinned tabs work. For many years now. If your users clearly indicate one of your features does not make any sense for many years it is time to act.

On what planet would anybody pin a tab and not expect it to stay there forever until unpinned, imagine if Windows did this when you pinned something to taskbar or start menu and say it crashed and you lost all your pins lmao.

Lost about 20 pinned tabs due to a browser extension opening another mini window and firefox saved that instead, cntrl+shift+n restored some weird tab history from years ago instead of what I had. This is not related to history erasing or settings, simply had a 2nd window opened that was closed in the wrong order expecting to only lose active tabs, not pinned tabs too, beyond ridiculous.

If you configured Firefox to do not save your history, each time you close a window, your tabs are lost, forever. That is okay since you configured Firefox to work that way. BUT pinned tabs are designed to last between sessions, so they should even be saved when the history is not saved.

In "about:preferences#privacy" under "History" we currently have one Checkbox and three subordinate check-boxes. on e those is called "Clear history when [BROWSER] closes". Ad a subordinate checkbox to this one and call it "Remember pinned tabs" and activate it by default.

Ideally, a simple context menu item from the tabs menu should help define which Firefox window is the main one. A feedback on the header would also be interesting to help understand which window is the main one.

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