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  • Faceted system for violence, sex, language, criminal or anti-social activities, and genre
  • One that understands the ratings system and term "porn" means "pornography" which means *pictoral*; not writing. A twelve year old can go to Barnes and Noble or any bookstore and buy the Kama Sutra or any work of erotic fiction without any problem. He/she just can't buy magazines with suggestively nude photographs--at least in the US. There is a difference and fiction and pictures are NOT the same. That said, we've adopted the system to just denote the level of description and the tastesulness of the writing so it does work to some extent but I believe it makes works seem more daring and racy than they really are
  • Any system not reliant on visual and auditory cues such as the movie system is in order to create a rating. While I don't prefer the "reading level" or "age range" systems because I find those inaccurate on books even it'd still be better than using very skewed and ethnocentric MPAA standards. Ideally a vague warning would be best (for example "adult content" or "violence") but that'd require everyone to get along and not bitch because they don't read/can't understand the warning, something that would never happen
  • no system other than authors warning for specific things people might want to avoid (explicit sex, torture, violence, slash, het, whatever). Anyone can walk into a bookstore and buy books with adult content. The movie ratings are misleading. You can get an R rating for lots of nudity in a film, however, you can't *see* naked bodies on the page. It's not the same
  • Perhaps keep the age if strictly necessary, but clarify what kinks/possibly offensive material the fic contains
  • The movie rating system is too topheavy against anything sexual and too light on violence. Heavy graphic description of blood and gore should carry at least an R rating, and a tasteful fade-to-black where before is quite tasteful as well should be able to carry a PG-13/M-15 rating in some cases (particularly the M-15)
  • To warn separately for graphic sex and graphic violence (currently they're both lumped together under NC-17). No difference in rating whether the sex described is heterosexual or homosexual (there's a tendency, though it is decreasing, to rate slash higher than het for the same level of graphicness)
  • putting an age range on the fics, such as TV ratings. TV14, for example, is "we recommend this show to be watched at the minimum age of 14." The same should apply to fics - "The recommended minimum reader age is 12/13/14..."
  • If you're there to read a whole story, it's not too difficult to read one short prefacing statement saying "This story contains mild sexual content, violence, and strong language", is it? Although having to click through an "I am 17/18" page gives you a good hint about that. (I personally find cheesiness more offensive than sex, homosexuality, language, or violence ;)
  • Descriptive, similar to what appears before shows on some TV stations; i.e, "The following story contains coarse language*; reader discretion is advised."

    *Or whatever description is needed to accurately warn readers of the content without giving away spoilers
  • I no longer think fiction should be rated in these terms
  • Well, the US has a different rating system than other countries, so i think, to be fair, there should be an international standard set. such as M for mature instead of nc-17
  • I don't have a better system, just wanted to say: I don't think the movie rating system adequately describes movies, either
  • Something that better described both adult themes/language, the use of violence, and the degree of sexual explicitness/degree to which the story depended on sex to carry the plot. (For instance, most John Wayne movies - not much adult themes, moderate to severe violence, no sex.)
  • Marking for adult content and specifically mentioning *what* adult content (e.g., sex, violence, torture, BDSM)
  • Well, the MPAA system is what I've got problems with. The British or French rating systems would do just fine, I think, because there are more options for the grey areas
  • No, but because I don't agree with the way the movie system rates things. That is homosexuality automatically gets a higher rating than hetrosexuality and violence and sex are not weighted evenly to determine a higher ranking
  • A more detailed one. I try to describe my work as a combination of movie ratings and detailed information (eg. "Rated R for violence and non-explicit sex"); I think it's something of a problem that people expect an R-rated or NC-17-rated story to contain sex, while the author may want to up the rating for language, violence, or simply mature themes
  • The ratings have to be used in conjunction with discriptions of the reasons behind the rating. Noncon, BDSM, death, violence, slash, etc. for people to understand the content of the fiction
  • Something that makes allowances for the differences in the depiction of violence between the two media. Graphic violence with blood and gore is going to potentially more disturbing as visual images than as written words, so the movie rating system pushes some fics into higher ratings than necessary
  • The basic theory of the movie system works nicely. The trouble is, the American ratings (which seem to be more or less universally used for this) have a huge gap between PG-13 and R. What I'd like to see is a rating introduced (possibly borrowing the UK 15 rating) in between them because, quite often, a story might push the PG-13 rating to its absolute limit but still not really merit the higher R rating
  • The ratings/disclaimer system I use is similar to this: Mature subject matter. Reader's discretion is advised. All stories listed as Mature are meant for a mature audience. As always, if you feel you might be offended by the content, do not read the story. (Anything that is violent or sexual receives a Mature subject matter rating)
  • My issue is that same sex automatically gets labeled as "adult material", even when it is not graphic/explicit. I don't warn homophobes who read my work
  • The current video game rating system, where besides the rating there's a description of why the rating applies
  • This has been a big problem for me. For my own stories, I ended up using my own system: I indicate whether there is onscreen sex or violence (and if so, whether it is graphic and nongraphic), or whether there are sensitive themes of sex or violence (offstage or potential activities are of a sensitive nature and may have as large an emotional impact on readers as the depiction of onstage activities). I set my system up this way because my stories often have no sex or violence in them but deal with touchy topics related to sexuality and/or violence.

    I also very much like the new Boys in Chains system:



    I think this is the best system in the slash world currently, because it divides the sex and violence categories, and it also differentiates between mainstream stories that have sex or violence in them, and erotica. The "rating withheld" category is also quite helpful.

    Another ratings system I've liked - from the m/f pro romance community - is much less negative than any of the movie/TV ratings systems. It could be adapted for amateur fiction:

  • Subdivide the 'R' rating, as it's too broad--is sometimes done with the 'PG-15' label, but there's no way of knowing whether a story just listed as 'R' tends closer to 15 or NC17
  • I don't know if we can really get much better, but I do know that the current system is incredibly subjective. I'm from liberal Connecticut, and what constitutes a PG-13 rating to me (mentions of sex, the f-word, non-graphic descriptions of sex, abortions, etc) doesn't to others, and I've had fics pulled down from FF.Net for "innapropriate content" and such. Which is quite flattering, mind you. Even though I'm vehemently opposed to most, if not all censorship, if I can freak someone out so badly that they want my writing REMOVED from teh internet, I've done my job right. ;P Maybe a system just explaining exactly what elements the fic uses would work better, aka a warning or something saying "this fic has violence/sex/disturbing themes," which I know isnt necessarily better, but the author is then innocent when it comes to complaining readers. If you rate soemthing as PG that is an R to others, you're going to get some complaints. If you straight-up tell the reader that 'this fic has an inordinate amount of kinky sex'-- you cant have any complaints because you laid out the terms in the author's note. The rating system is kind of, excuse my french, bullshit-- I know I started reading fanfic when I was twelve (I'm now 17), and the sheer amount of NC-17 and porn I read was staggering. Growing up in a... freer... household like I have, my parents trusted me to know my own limits, and if I didn't want to read about some crackwhore giving Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer a blowjob, I wouldn't
  • Only to label NC-17 stuff, and not to use movie rating system for the milder stories. I don't think the rating is meaningful for G-R rated stories, it would be better to use some kind of description of the content.
  • warnings/squicks
  • It's hard to say, really. What's legal or the norm in one country differs in another as do the ages people are allowed to view certain things. In a broad sense the current system works, if only so parents can't say "but you didn't post a warning!" when their children read things they shouldn't anyways. Another difficulty in having a ratings system is that what one person can handle, another can not. Good judgement and parents supervision are the best monitoring systems (and the least likely to be used)
  • I think it would be better to use a custom-made, standardized system more like that of video games, where both the rating and the reason for the rating (sex, violence, horror themes, etc.) are included. Movie ratings aren't very helpful to those outside of the US, and in my personal opinion they aren't very helpful even when applied to MPAA movies.

    While the 'warnings' system is very helpful for fiction, particularly with actual porn as opposed to general adult fiction, it can sometimes force a writer to choose between revealing key plot points or not revealing enough for a reader to give an informed opinion, and when applied to art it pretty much always has that problem
  • It works, but just barely. The NC-(insert age here) with warnings for either sexuality, death and violence, language or adult situations 1-5 is a good one, but cumbersom. Nonetheless, the movie rating system (at least here in America) barely works for the movies, and mass media film here are hardly as complex and varied as ffic tends to be
  • Would describe the content more fully, much as standardized fanfic headers try to do. And I'd really prefer a system with a means to rate stories for technical and creative quality, so that I can find good fics in fandoms where I don't have any personal connections
  • Australian television ratings state what the rating is for, and the degree: eg. 'Rated R for mild violence and strong sexual situations.' I think the current system is okay, and a lot of authors specify anyway, and warnings tend to cover these sorts of things. But if I could wave a wand, this would be the system
  • No, but I think the movie rating has been slowly adapted to fit works of fiction-- so that NC-17 or R fanfic is adequately tagged, but not necessarily meaning the same thing as NC-17 on a movie
  • I have to admit it's personal. I have a 13-year-old cousin and 10-year-old nephews. I rate PG everything I wouldn't like my nephews to read and PG-13 or PG-15 in my cousin's case. Anything with explicit violence or sex goes under R or NC-17
  • But some need warnings
  • Code warnings work better. While you don't have the visual (like in films) you often have much more graphic discriptions
  • G
    PG
    PG-13
    M-15
    R
    NC-17
  • to realize that the number of people who actually read is minuscule and if a ten year old reads a few obscenities or a graphic description of rape, or even a lot, it's not a big deal
  • The movie rating for where I live, USA, takes into account violence and language as being less "adult" than sex. So a lot of fiction that I have read with lots of violence, but would rather have not read, have lower ratings than the ones I've read with mild sex- which I prefer to detailed sex scenes. I think a better rating would rate each individually. If there's a lot of detailed violence or sex or really bad language, they'd each have a different impact. S0V0 for no sex or violence, for example, and S5V5 for something really intense
  • A proper blurb like that on a commercial book works much better than a ratings system designed for visual media. Specific warnings like 'noncon' are also helpful
  • To get rid of the movie ratings and simply post warnings about potentially offensive content. Those are much more helpful for international readships anyway, because not all countries use the same rating system
  • Asimilar aystem but one that also indicates what the rating is for i.e. sexual content (how explicit and if kink), violence (including torture), language, sensitive material i.e. child abuse, rape ect
  • I find that many writers tend to "over" rate their stories "just to be on the safe side," which means a lot of R or NC17 stories are really PG or so. I read all ratings, so it doesn't really matter to me
  • I think the movie rating system works well but it would be better if specific warning were added, such as rape, character death, abuse, torture
  • The movie rating system gives a general guideline, but suffers from 2 problems.
    1) Not all authors rate their work accurately, either because they don't understand the ratings system, or (occasionally) because they want to deliberately mislead readers.
    2)The movie ratings system is limited in what it relates to, and it is difficult to tell what the rating is being given for.

    An improved system would be using the movie ratings system, along with keywords, like the warnings some writers give, to give a more accurate impression of what the work contains
  • A universal system - not all countries have the same movie ratings systems
  • An initial "movie" rating, then additional information about what content might be considered objectionable (particular sexual acts, non-consensual sex, BDSM, various kinks, adult/child relationships)
  • The system at SkyeHawke with the (X) for Extreme, (V) for Violence, (S) for Sex, etc
  • One geared more toward the written language. There are guidlines that movies have to follow, like having three swears moves it up a rating. Meanwhile people can skim across words, miss things, focus more on one area of the story than another. Therefore there needs to be one tailored specifically for books. Like erotica should just be the stuff that is all about sex, meanwhile if it serves the plot it should be rated differently
  • Yes, there is always a warning
  • I don't have a better system. Ratings vary from fandom to fandom. I only read slash and some fandoms rate all slash stories NC-17 even when there is no sexual content at all
  • I don't have an alternative system, but I think the movie rating system often has to do more with the amount of violence in a movie rather than its sexual content
  • I prefer the content labels normally provided in the heading of the fic. They are much more specific
  • I think author's take on what fits movie rating systems guidelines and my understanding of it can be quite different...so it doesn't really work. I have no alternative suggestion, however
  • A universal one, because movie ratings are very well, but different countries, different movie ratings. W eeuropeans usually see things differentl than the americans.
    If someone watches out for the ratings that someone needs to check carefully if the author is from the US or the UK or a whole other part of the world. Because not even movies are rated the same way in diffrent countries and stories aren't either. Some fanfic archives have a help where they show how to rate what story, but this is based on the US-rating system and I for one think that for example PG-15(from the UK rating system) would be a good addition.
    So a worldwide standard (although this will be very, very unprobable) would be my suggestion
  • Also, there should be a more international one.

    People which write their fanfic in French, or German or Russian ect. have very different rating systems than those in the UK or USA
  • I prefer reading the 'warnings' section of a fic 'template' (similar to the dust jacket of a book, though more important) than the actual ratings. I find ratings I usually ignore the ratings included
  • I don't feel the film rating system works for films very well either. There should be a solid and documented rating system for fic that takes into account the mood and themes of a work, not just the use of the word cock
  • if they don't list that it is 'slash', but it is lite, they rate it g or pg, which confusees me. i always assume these are het. i think it should be require that it is het or slash, then go by the same ratings
  • warnings for explicit sex, explicit violence, certain sex acts such as BD, death stories, etc
  • I don't really know the answer to this. It's something that, as an administrator of a site, I struggle with. We do not "rate" our stories because we have not found an adequate system. We only archive stories up to an "R" rating, but what that "means" is always up for debate. Because the fandom is based on a book series popular through many age groups, we try to be very careful in keeping our fiction within the same "ratings" as the books. But everyone interprets this differently, fights over it, and disagrees. In our case, it has been most helpful to state that our entire site contains content suitable for those 13 and up. Occasionally, we put warnings on our stories if they have "mature themes" but even that is up for interpretation. If anyone has any better ideas, I would love to hear them... it's tricky, because ratings systems are *not* applied to books, and yet, somehow, if it's on the Internet, people often seem to feel that we're obligated to put warnings on everything
  • Different ratings for different things. Such as having a different rating for violence than sex, because some people (including myself) don't mind reading some of the violent ones (not S&M, but Death Eater torure, or something) while disliking sex fics. So more gradations between PG-13 and R. Or maybe just a checklist to decide what rating it should be
  • More specific content categories: e.g. violence, strong language, sexual content, etc
  • The movie ratings system is tied to the *American* movie system. Since I'm American, I don't have trouble negotiating it, but I can see where others would. Then again, I'm not sure what we would replace it with
  • Something more people understand - it took me quitea while to figure it out
  • Since published books don't require any kind of rating whatsoever, I find the entire thing rather pointless. Just a warning of what the story contains would be enough. The movie ratings are too limited, and written fanfiction doesn't always fit neatly into five simple categories. The result is that a lot of fanfiction gets deleted simply for having 'the wrong rating', even though there is no other suitable rating available
  • I think that the movie rating is pretty flimsy to begin with; plus, not all countries have the same rating, so it can get confusing. And PG and PG-13 can be hard to decide on. I've seen PG-13 movies that are a step from R, and PG-13 movies that are G. The same applies to fanfiction
  • No, but yes: I feel that the movie rating system should be used to rate: L (language, excessive profanity, etc.); S (sex or sexual activity, including het, slash, or non-consensual, i.e., graphic rape scenes--which I won't read if I know they're in a fic); and V (for violence).

    Using this system, a fanfic heading could conceivably look like:
    FIC: The Plant of the Soul, 6a/10, D/OC1, L:PG, S:PG-13, V:n
    This is a chapter of a fanific of mine, translated it means: the first half of Chapter 6 of 10 chapters; it involves Dawn [Summers--it's a "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" fic] and OC1--first Original Character I'm introducing; Language is PG; Sex is PG-13 (they kiss hotly); V:n--no violence in this part of the chapter
  • It's frequently difficult to tell- different authors will rate their work differently depending on what they believe to be age-appropriate- the movie rating system is therefore not especially faithful nor is it terribly useful (although you usually know what you're getting if you're reading NC-17, for example, the line between R and NC-17 is blurred as are the ones between G and PG, and PG-13 and R. Also many countries, like my own New Zealand, have different rating systems for their films.) I generally use "warnings" and genere under a fic to decide whether I want to read it- warnings are mostly utilised by writers of NC-17. examples are het, slash, bestiality, chan (under-age), no love (casual sex), explicit sex, explicit violence, bloodplay, BDSM, bondage, dominance/sub, non-con (non-consensual) etc etc. From these I know whether the fic contains stuff (like rape) that I prefer not to read
  • The movie rating system does not work because sites base it entirely on the ameircan system which is not broad enough - and we are not all americans!!! It allows gross amounts of violence, but is incredibly prudish at the same time. The old 'you can't cut a breast, but you can't kiss it'
  • I think using the MPAA system is useful as a standard, but I find it more helpful when authors include specific content-related descriptions (ie "sex" or "language"), and I do the same myself
  • I prefer ratings that explicitly warn of het vs. gay content (even though I read both I prefer to know)
  • I don't believe in ratings or age restrictions per se, as the ratings are often based on taste and hunches, and there are huge differences in maturity levels between individual people
  • Warnings and a general rating don't really tell you how graphic specific elements of a story are - sex, violence, etc. I think they should have seperate ratings, because I don't mind graphic, disturbing sex, but I really don't like graphic violence unless it's kink
  • the R/NC-17 system doesn't work for written material. It should be either R or PG. Those two are good enough. All fanfic sites require a written summary and many require the author to pigeon-hole their work into a category. That is enough. Too much in fact

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