Downloading a TiddlyWiki that doesn't have a download link?

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hey all,

Is there a way to download a TiddlyWiki from the web if the author
hasn't provided a download link? I kinda want that TW that has all
those themes built into it, but don't see where to save it...

Dave

[wolfgang]

Sorry for having forgotten about that. Usually every TW has a SiteUrl
shadowed tiddler, from where you can right click and save that
TiddlyWiki: http://change.tiddlyspot.com/#SiteUrl
Also, for TWs where that link isn't the correct one, I usually just
copy the location from the browser address bar into a new tiddler,
right click and save it from there to my hard drive.

Regards,

W.

On 24 Mai, 12:47, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Simon Baird]

For any site on tiddlyspot you can http://change.tiddlyspot.com/download (and you don't even have to right click, save as..)

--
simon...@gmail.com

[FND]

> Sorry for having forgotten about that. Usually every TW has a SiteUrl
> shadowed tiddler, from where you can right click and save that TiddlyWiki

That's not part of the core functionality though; by default the SiteUrl
shadow tiddler points to http://www.tiddlywiki.com.

Would it make sense to set this to the current document's URL on
startup, like so:
config.shadowTiddlers.SiteUrl = document.location.toString();
Just in case, I've raised a ticket:
http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/658

-- F.

[ocalTW]

Dave

I'm afraid I do not interpret properly your question, as there is an
easy answer: look at the source code of the page and download it
locally - e.g. View / Page Source or CTRL-U with Firefox.

Another possibility: you may not "see" a download link but it may be
hidden somewhere. Have a look at other extensions that enable to get
the list of all links within a page (DownThem All, View page
info, ...)

What is that specific regarding TiddlyWiki?

-- ocalTW

On May 24, 12:47 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Eric Shulman]

> Would it make sense to set this to the current document's URL on
> startup, like so:
> config.shadowTiddlers.SiteUrl = document.location.toString();
> Just in case, I've raised a ticket:
> http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/ticket/658

It is up to the document's author to decide what URL is appropriate
for the SiteUrl value, and setting it automatically would break the
semantics of existing functionality!

For example, the value of SiteUrl is used when generating XML output,
and is supposed to point to the URL where you originally got the
document... not the *current* location -- which would be file://...
after you've downloaded the document.

Note also that some sites do not contain a 'real' SiteUrl tiddler, but
simply set the shadow value via a 'systemConfig' tiddler. Thus,
automatically overwriting the shadow is *not* a viable option.

-e

[FND]

> It is up to the document's author to decide what URL is appropriate
> for the SiteUrl value

Well, that's why only the shadow tiddler is being altered (from the
hardcoded link to TiddlyWiki.com).
So if a document author wants that changed, he'll still proceed just
like before, by creating a regular tiddler called "SiteUrl".

> Note also that some sites do not contain a 'real' SiteUrl tiddler, but
> simply set the shadow value via a 'systemConfig' tiddler. Thus,
> automatically overwriting the shadow is *not* a viable option.

Wouldn't such a plugin simply override the default option, regardless of
whether that's TW.com or document.location?

-- F.

[Steve Brettell]

Can someone please walk me through this procedure. I'm having this
problem on Tiddlyspot, and can't come up with a solution to save the
original tiddler. I'm really new, and don't know what's being said here.

The only solution anyone's come up with is "Don't use TiddlyWiki if
you're so darned ingnorant."

Steve B.

[wolfgang]

Hi Steve,

here a basic introduction about saving a TiddlyWiki:

http://tiddlertoddler.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BSave%20TiddlyWiki%5D%5D

Regards,

W.

On 24 Mai, 22:53, Steve Brettell <sbrett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> wolfgang wrote:
> > Sorry for having forgotten about that. Usually every TW has a SiteUrl
> > shadowed tiddler, from where you can right click and save that
> > TiddlyWiki:http://change.tiddlyspot.com/#SiteUrl
> > Also, for TWs where that link isn't the correct one, I usually just
> > copy the location from the browser address bar into a new tiddler,
> > right click and save it from there to my hard drive.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > W.
>

> > On 24 Mai, 12:47, "Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Steve Brettell]

The problem I can't seem to communicate to anyone is that when I click
on save changes, I get a message that says I must first save to a file
before I can do this. If I right click it, I don't get any save options
at all.
When I click on download, nothing is saved.
When I right click on download, and choose "Save Link as..." A void file
is downloaded
When I do this is IE, I get a 404 error

[Daniel Baird]

Hi Steve,

I've just answered your message to tiddlyspot support, but in case
anyone else is following along:

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Steve Brettell <sbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [...]

> When I right click on download, and choose "Save Link as..." A void file
> is downloaded

On tiddlyspot sites, the "download" link works by just clicking it
normally -- i.e. a left click. No need to right-click and mess about.

;Daniel

--
Daniel Baird
/to be or not to be/ => /(2b|[^2]b)/ => /(2|[^2])b/ => /.b/
...optimise your regexes, people!

[Gingerman]

Daniel,

Thanks for your continuing patience:

I changed the security settings on my browser, and it now downloads
from the download button. But when I open it, it only shows up as
HTML code, which is what the 'save as' window indicates the file type
to be. How can I prettify it?

Another minor issue is that the last change I made, the formatting
codes show up as just that, formatting codes, rather than formatted
text. Any idea why or how to fix it?

Steve

On May 24, 9:05 pm, "Daniel Baird" <danielba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I've just answered your message to tiddlyspot support, but in case
> anyone else is following along:
>

[Daniel Baird]

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Gingerman <sbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> Thanks for your continuing patience:
>
> I changed the security settings on my browser, and it now downloads
> from the download button. But when I open it, it only shows up as
> HTML code, which is what the 'save as' window indicates the file type
> to be. How can I prettify it?

Is it actually opening in your browser, or in your text editor, eg
Notepad? If you scroll right to the bottom, are the last three lines:

<!--POST-SCRIPT-END-->
</body>
</html>

..or do you see something else?

>
> Another minor issue is that the last change I made, the formatting
> codes show up as just that, formatting codes, rather than formatted
> text. Any idea why or how to fix it?

That will happen if you type stuff between {{{ triple curly brackets
}}} or """triple double quotes""". Otherwise I can have a look -- you
might like to send a URL to sup...@tiddlyspot.com instead of posting
here.

Cheers

[Steve Brettell]

Daniel Baird wrote:
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Gingerman <sbre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Thanks for your continuing patience:
>>
>> I changed the security settings on my browser, and it now downloads
>> from the download button. But when I open it, it only shows up as
>> HTML code, which is what the 'save as' window indicates the file type
>> to be. How can I prettify it?
>>
>
> Is it actually opening in your browser, or in your text editor, eg
> Notepad? If you scroll right to the bottom, are the last three lines:
>
> <!--POST-SCRIPT-END-->
> </body>
> </html>
>
> ..or do you see something else?
>
>
>
>> Another minor issue is that the last change I made, the formatting
>> codes show up as just that, formatting codes, rather than formatted
>> text. Any idea why or how to fix it?
>>
>
> That will happen if you type stuff between {{{ triple curly brackets
> }}} or """triple double quotes""". Otherwise I can have a look -- you
> might like to send a URL to sup...@tiddlyspot.com instead of posting
> here.
>
> Cheers
> ;Daniel
>
>
>

I don't understand it. It's actually opening in the browser. I thought
that html would show up as a page in the browser.

[Daniel Baird]

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Steve Brettell <sbre...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Daniel Baird wrote:
>> Is it actually opening in your browser, or in your text editor, eg
>> Notepad? If you scroll right to the bottom, are the last three lines:
>>
>> <!--POST-SCRIPT-END-->
>> </body>
>> </html>
>>
>

> I don't understand it. It's actually opening in the browser. I thought
> that html would show up as a page in the browser.

If the file is incomplete, you might just see source. That happens
from time to time when an upload is interrupted before the whole file
is sent. Do you see those three lines at the bottom of the file?

;D

[Steve Brettell]

I've actually gone over to using Ubuntu, which is solving some problems, and creating others.  It looks like for now I'm able to save the TiddlySpot page I need.  I'm going to keep plugging at it.  I have about 10 fellows who are looking at, and begining to modify one of my Wikis.  I'm trying to lead them into this for collaboration on projects, and when I can't get it to work, it sorta puts a damper on everyone's enthusiasm.  Two of the guys are IT types, and the world's greatest experts, so they kind of sit back smirking when it's not working, and aren't willing to try to work it out.  It's perfect for what we need, when it's working though.

Thanks,
Steve

[Simon Baird]

Maybe you're on top of this but TiddlyWiki is pretty bad at collaboration. If two people are working on the same TiddlyWiki it is essentially a disaster. So, er.. be careful. And do look take a look http://sites.google.com

--
simon...@gmail.com

[Steve Brettell]

Thanks, it looks kind of cool.
Steve

[Eric Weir]

I have an off-topic issue that I'd like feedback on. I checked with Eric
Shulman before sending this, and will do my best to adhere to his
requests -- the first being that I ask you to respond directly to me,
not to the list/forum.

The second was that I be brief. Here goes: I've been using Linux -- the
three major flavors of Ubuntu -- almost exclusively for about ten
months. I've encountered a serious problem with Mozilla applications --
Thunderbird, Firefox, Sunbird, and even Swiftdove. They are REALLY slow
-- e.g., I can count the seconds before a context menu shows up after
right-clicking; scrolling a message list or web page is slow, jerky and
VERY imprecise. I've checked this out pretty thoroughly with various
local and online Ubuntu-related support groups, installfests, etc. It
does not seem to be hardware related. People with brand new machines,
uptodate processors, and lots of RAM are experiencing the problem.

I am about to give up on Linux and go out and buy myself an iMac, but
before I do I wanted to make one last effort to get a diagnosis and
cure. So, my questions: [1] Have any other Linux users here experienced
this problem with any of the Mozilla apps? [2] Do any Linux/Mozilla
experts have any idea what's going on.

Remember, send your response to me off-list, not to the list/forum.

Thanks,
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

[FND]

Please don't create threads by sending an e-mail reply to an existing
thread and changing the topic. This results in the message getting
buried within that previous thread:
http://i29.tinypic.com/ek1gub.png

I'll take a look at your problem in the next couple of days - I got a
huge backlog at the moment (as might be seen in that screenshot).

Thanks.

-- F.

[Scott Elcomb]

Hi Eric,

I've been a long-time Red Hat Linux user; a couple years ago I
started playing around with Ubuntu as well and eventually made it my
day-to-day desktop. I also do my primary development for Mozilla
Firefox...

I don't recall ever seeing this type of behaviour. If you figure out
what caused it, could you please drop me a line and let me know what
caused/causes it? (I'm a member of the Greater Toronto Area Linux
Users Group and have connections to a number of other Ontario LUG's.)

Speaking of which, have you tried contacting your local LUG? Also,
Georgia Tech looks to have a decent sized group - www.lugatgt.org/

Best of luck!
- Scott.

--
Scott Elcomb
http://www.psema4.com/

[Scott Elcomb]

On 5/31/08, Scott Elcomb <pse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/30/08, Eric Weir <eew...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > I have an off-topic issue that I'd like feedback on. I checked with Eric
> > Shulman before sending this, and will do my best to adhere to his
> > requests -- the first being that I ask you to respond directly to me,
> > not to the list/forum.

[...]

> > Remember, send your response to me off-list, not to the list/forum.
>
> Hi Eric,

[...]

Aagh, sorry all - clicked send but forgot to change the address. Most
sincere apologies.

[Eric Weir]

On 05/30/2008 FND wrote:

> Please don't create threads by sending an e-mail reply to an existing
> thread and changing the topic. This results in the message getting
> buried within that previous thread: http://i29.tinypic.com/ek1gub.png

My apologies. I've been admonished about this before. I know the
practice here is different from a standard listserv, but I forget what
the correct practice is. As I recall, I believe I thought I was doing it
the right way.

Regards,