Announcing TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7

[Jeremy Ruston]

I’m please to announce the release of TiddlyDesktop v0.0.7 for Windows, Mac and Linux.

* Experimental support for "wiki folders" (the Node.js format for TiddlyWiki, where each tiddler is a separate file), including the ability to serve wiki folders over HTTP so that you can use any browser or device to access them
* Switched from representing wikis as thumbnails to favicons
* New system tray/menu icon for quick access to TiddlyDesktop
* Fixed problem with restarting after quitting with minimised windows on Windows (#77)
* Added TiddlyDesktop version number to "Help" window

Note: Upgrading to this release will clear your list of loaded wiki files. The files themselves are not affected; you can re-add them by dragging and dropping them into the wiki list window.

It’s worth stressing that the support for wiki folders has some limitations, and may not be suitable for all users at this point. This release has given me a chance to figure out some of the issues with moving to a multiprocess architecture (which is necessary to support multiple Node.js wikis); I’ll post separately about my thoughts for future development.

Download the new release here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases

As ever, please remember the first rule of TiddlyWiki, and take very, very careful backups.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

[Jeremy Ruston]

I've just released v0.0.8 of TiddlyDesktop to fix a couple of bugs that have been released today:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases

Please upgrade to the new version and let me know if you run into any problems,

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[Danielo Rodríguez]

Cool! 

I will try it as soon as I can.

 I’ll post separately about my thoughts for future development.

I am very interested on your thoughts about it. Where are you going to post them? 

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

I am very interested on your thoughts about it. Where are you going to post them? 

I spoke about it a little in Hangout #93:

https://youtu.be/tO7kqgrXsB8?list=PLVT_2PPd-1p34gGCQ5qpwC8QdykxVAI3u&t=3977

The gist of it is that I’d like to move from the model of “a custom browser with extended capabilities" to “a GUI for running TiddlyWiki as a server, accessing via any browser you like”.

Other points:

* Personally, I want a system tray menu of my available wikis where choosing one opens it in the default browser

* Key to the plan is adding the ability to serve standalone HTML file-based TiddlyWiki’s over HTTP

* I’d like to support remote installations of TiddlyWiki on Amazon Web Services, TiddlySpot

Best wishes

Jeremy.

[peter....@hotmail.de]

Hello Jeremy

I have problems with TiddlyDesktop. It worked fine some weeks ago but now if I try to run the app I only see the Task in the Windows-Taskbar but nothing else. I used the lastest TiddlyDesktop (Eight) release in combination with your experimental text editor TiddlyWiki. It worked for several weeks. Unfortunatelly I cannot reproduce what happened to break the app.

It's possible to hover over the task. I can even activate it. If I hover over the little preview-frame all other windows went to the background - but again nothing happens (see picture)

any idea?

I am using Win 10 x64 and (if that matters) the Opera Browser

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Peter

I have problems with TiddlyDesktop. It worked fine some weeks ago but now if I try to run the app I only see the Task in the Windows-Taskbar but nothing else. I used the lastest TiddlyDesktop (Eight) release in combination with your experimental text editor TiddlyWiki. It worked for several weeks. Unfortunatelly I cannot reproduce what happened to break the app.

It's possible to hover over the task. I can even activate it. If I hover over the little preview-frame all other windows went to the background - but again nothing happens (see picture)

It sounds like you need to nuke the TiddlyDesktop configuration file.

First, use Task Manager to kill any running TiddlyDesktop process (you could also restart the system to ensure that TD is not running).

Then, locate the TiddlyDesktop configuration folder. It should look something like this:

C:\Users\Jeremy\AppData\Local\TiddlyWiki

Simply delete the entire folder, and then restart TiddlyDesktop. You’ll have lost the list of configured wikis, but the wiki files themselves won’t be damanged.

Best wishes

Jeremy

any idea?

I am using Win 10 x64 and (if that matters) the Opera Browser

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[peter....@hotmail.de]

Oh God, thank you Jeremy. That was it and it finally runs again! Thank you so much

[Dave]

Hi Jeremy,

I tried making a new wiki folder, but in the folder is only one html file instead of the separate files per tiddler I was expecting.  Is there some setup change I need to do to get that behaviour?

- Dave

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dave

I tried making a new wiki folder, but in the folder is only one html file instead of the separate files per tiddler I was expecting.  Is there some setup change I need to do to get that behaviour?

What steps did you use to create the wiki folder? There’s currently no support within TiddlyDesktop for creating new wiki folders; you have to create them manually.

The simplest way is to create a new folder, and in it place a file called “tiddlywiki.info” with the following content:

{
"plugins": [
"tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb",
"tiddlywiki/filesystem"
],
"themes": [
"tiddlywiki/vanilla",
"tiddlywiki/snowwhite"
]
}

Then use the “Add wiki folder” button in TiddlyDesktop to add the folder.

Let me know how you get on,

Best wishes

Jeremy.

- Dave

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[Dave]

That worked great, thank you!

[Dave]

I have three questions about hacking tiddlydesktop to work better for my use case:

1) Is there any way to change something in an editable file to make the "tiddler" folder to be called something else? (in my case I'd like it to be called "data" - that's where I already keep my hundreds of text files)

2) Can I also somehow change the ".tid" extension of the tiddler files to be ".txt"?

3) For multi-word tiddlers, can the file have spaces in the name instead of "word_word"?

Thanks!

-Dave

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dave

I have three questions about hacking tiddlydesktop to work better for my use case:

In fact, all these questions apply generally to the Node.js configuration of TiddlyWiki.

1) Is there any way to change something in an editable file to make the "tiddler" folder to be called something else? (in my case I'd like it to be called "data" - that's where I already keep my hundreds of text files)

As things stand, that could only be done by hacking the TW source code; the result would be a unique fork of TiddlyWiki that was incompatible with the main core. You may be able to use symlinks to achieve the same effect, though.

2) Can I also somehow change the ".tid" extension of the tiddler files to be ".txt”?

The trouble is that `.txt` files are already defined to contain plain text tiddlers. Redefining the meaning of the extension would thus break existing references to .txt files.

3) For multi-word tiddlers, can the file have spaces in the name instead of "word_word”?

TW will happily process tiddler files with spaces within the filename, despite the fact that the default processing for new tiddler files replaces spaces with underscores. That default processing could be extended to be more customisable.

Generally, these are tricky questions! TiddlyWiki is infinitely hackable because ultimately it’s just a bunch of text files. But hacking your way too far from the core will tend to make it harder for you to take advantage of updates and extensions from the community.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

Thanks!

-Dave

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[Dave]

Thank you. 

I can probably live with the underscore naming and the .tid thing, and I'll look into the symlink option (that's always been mysterious to me, so a good project to research)

[iain]

I was wondering whether there is an explanation of TW Desktop - what it is, what it is meant to do and its relationship with TW Classic and TW5.

I tried searching this group and couldn't find one.

Cheers

Iain

[Dave]

I'll give you my limited take on it, and then someone else can correct my mistakes.

TW Desktop is a TW5 (I think its limited to TW5, but I guess you might be able to do it withTWC) instance that's half way in between the regular single file kind and the full Node.js variety.  As far as I can see its browser agnostic (don't need a regular browser to run it, but you can still open the TW files with a browser if you want), and I believe it can access the file system a bit more easily (like with node.js) - but I haven't looked  into that at all and I might be wrong about that.  Recently its been designed to be able to store tiddlers as text files (with the .tid extension) so you could access them with external methods.

[peter....@hotmail.de]

Hi Jeremy

Your solution works for a while, but now I need to erase the folder everytime I start TiddlyDesktop. Do you have a long term fix for me?

help!

[Captain Packers]

This isn't working for me. I seem to end up with what I would describe as a "stub" of a tiddlywiki. It seems functional, but it seems to be lacking any kind of style. It's like black and white. It's not graphical, all text based.