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skye riquelme

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Jun 26, 2011, 12:17:00 PM6/26/11
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Hi All

Anyone having trouble after actualizing to Firefox5?

For me importTiddlers is not working when the source TW is in a
different folder ...... can´t synchronize tiddlers with original...get
message that "f.adaptor.putTiddler is not a function"....?

Any Ideas?
Skye

Paul

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Jun 26, 2011, 1:50:36 PM6/26/11
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I have noticed something similar.  I use an includeList to add some help files and a common menu structure across my tiddlers.  When I open the main file I get:

Error when including '../../Document/gen_CommonMenu.html': does not appera to be a valid TiddlyWiki file

Paul

Måns

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Jun 26, 2011, 1:51:02 PM6/26/11
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Hi Skye

> Anyone having trouble after actualizing to Firefox5?

Yep:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/t/91cceb725627d959

It made me revert back to FF ver.4

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Paul

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Jun 26, 2011, 1:51:11 PM6/26/11
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On 6/26/2011 9:17 AM, skye riquelme wrote:

I have noticed something similar.  I use an includeList to add some help files and a common menu structure across my tiddlers.  When I open the main file I get:

Error when including '../../Documents/gen_CommonMenu.html': The file '../../Documents/gen_CommonMenu.html' does not appear to be a valid TiddlyWiki file

Paul

skye riquelme

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Jun 26, 2011, 2:44:52 PM6/26/11
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Hi Again


Mans....how did you go back to FF4...cant find a download for it
anymore?

Thanks
Skye

On Jun 26, 2:51 pm, Paul <ptru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/26/2011 9:17 AM, skye riquelme wrote:
>
> > Hi All
>
> > Anyone having trouble after actualizing to Firefox5?
>
> > For me importTiddlers is not working when the source TW is in a
> > different folder ...... can�t synchronize tiddlers with original...get

Måns

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Jun 26, 2011, 4:43:28 PM6/26/11
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Hi Skye

I'm using PuppyLinux (my own breed: http://tw-os.tiddlyspace.com)- so
I simply revert back to an earlier version of my system by copying
files from my "shadowed" systemfiles...

I guess you can do something similar in Windows..
- or you can download and use firefox ver 4 as a portable app here:
http://tinyurl.com/5w5qnnf

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

skye riquelme

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Jun 26, 2011, 7:05:39 PM6/26/11
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Thanks Mans


I finally found a FF4 installation....english ! but I can live with
that....

and yes...same story...went back to FF4 and now UploadPlugin is
working again!!!!!!

And they say they aren´t going to maintain FF4....hope the TW find a
way to get TW work with FF5!!

Thanks
Skye

Eric Weir

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Jun 26, 2011, 8:07:41 PM6/26/11
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On Jun 26, 2011, at 7:05 PM, skye riquelme wrote:

> And they say they aren´t going to maintain FF4....hope the TW find a
> way to get TW work with FF5!!

It would be too much to hope that TW would find a way to work with Safari, e.g., ImportTiddlerPlugin and the absence of a file picker being things I find especially frustrating. That and the fact that no one in the TW community is willing to take them on. [I am not competent to do so myself. If I were I would help however I could.]

I've been getting familiar with Vim the past few months. Today I installed a wiki plugin, Vimwiki. I seriously doubt it'll have the power or the versatility of TW. If it did Vim might provide a more robust, stable, and accommodating platform for a nonprogrammer like myself than the TW/browser combination.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net


Eric Weir

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Jun 26, 2011, 8:10:03 PM6/26/11
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On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> TW would find a way to work with Safari

Shoulda been "that TW would find a way to get TW to work with Safari."

PMario

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Jun 27, 2011, 4:25:06 AM6/27/11
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Hi Skye,
Have you tried to open Firebug and reload your page?
It may display an error at initialisation time.

---
It seems that mozilla has closed some security holes, that effect some
"TW magic functions" now.

http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/06/cross-domain-webgl-textures-disabled-in-firefox-5/
read the comments too.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy just
as an info

-m

HansBKK

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Jun 27, 2011, 7:44:12 AM6/27/11
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I assume "includelist" refers to the old "IncludePlugin" - I highly recommend Eric's LoadTiddlers, perhaps + the temporary gizmo, searching here will bring up threads where the two authors discuss configuring Eric's to work equivalently to how Include is supposed to work. . .

paul....@gmail.com

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Jun 27, 2011, 6:46:00 PM6/27/11
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Yes, I am, or was using, Udo Borkowski's LoadTiddlersPlugin. I think
I looked at Eric's before and if I recall, his loads the tiddlers
permanently ... which makes the file larger. I was trying to keep my
file sizes down by referencing some help material. I'll give
LoadTiddlers another look though and see if it works.

However, there is still the matter that the backstage upgrade no
longer works.

Paul.

Eric Shulman

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Jun 27, 2011, 7:00:44 PM6/27/11
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> I looked at Eric's before and if I recall, his loads the tiddlers
> permanently ... which makes the file larger.  I was trying to keep my
> file sizes down by referencing some help material.  I'll give
> LoadTiddlers another look though and see if it works.

Use this *combination* of plugins:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#LoadTiddlersPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TemporaryTiddlersPlugin
and add the 'temporary' tag when loading tiddlers from external
sources. When you save your file, tiddlers tagged as 'temporary' are
*not saved*. Thus, the file size will *NOT* get any larger due to the
tiddlers that were loaded from other files.

-e

iain

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Jun 28, 2011, 12:42:53 AM6/28/11
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Having a mysterious problem with random failures of my back button, I
have been using Chrome for a fortnight and have gone back to FF and am
glad as Chrome had problems saving Tiddlers. but then my Australin
Dictionary add in doesnt work which is worse because I am stuck with
American English! What is "actualizing"?

Surely programs should only be upgraded annually is FF 5 better than
FF 4? I doubt it.

Iain

paul....@gmail.com

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Jun 28, 2011, 10:56:20 AM6/28/11
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Thanks Eric, it works as advertised.

One question on using the loadTiddlers macro though;
I get "errors" when I put the macro in the DefaultTiddlers (but still
imports correctly);

DefaultTiddlers
<<loadTiddlers tag:menu "../../Documents/gen_CommonMenu.html" quiet>>

Results in:

tag:menu
The tiddler 'tag:menu' doesn't yet exist. Double-click to create it

quiet>>
The tiddler 'quiet>>' doesn't yet exist. Double-click to create it

<<loadTiddlers
The tiddler 'loadTiddlers' doesn't yet exist. Double-click to create
it

If I stick the macro in another tiddler listed in DefaultTiddlers it
works as expected. I just have an empty tiddler sitting there open.

Paul

Eric Shulman

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Jun 28, 2011, 12:18:47 PM6/28/11
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> I get "errors" when I put the macro in the DefaultTiddlers (but still
> imports correctly);

You can't put TW macros directly into the DefaultTiddlers. That
tiddler can only contain a white-space separated list of tiddler
titles and/or tag filter syntax, e.g.:
SomeTiddler SomeOtherTiddler [tag[startup]] AnotherTiddler
will automatically open 3 named tiddlers plus any tiddlers tagged with
'startup'

As you've already noted, to invoke a macro during startup you need to
put it into a tiddler whose content is rendered whenever the document
is opened. For example, you could put <<loadTiddlers>> into your
MainMenu or even the SiteTitle tiddler, since those tiddlers are
always rendered at startup time.

Another approach is to add the following line to your PageTemplate
<span macro="tiddler SiteStartup" style="display:none"></span>
and then create a tiddler called SiteStartup in which you invoke
<<loadTiddlers>>. The span in the PageTemplate is hidden
("display:none"), so that no unwanted output is displayed. (Note:
<<loadTiddlers>> doesn't actually produce any inline output, but other
macros that can be invoked in this way might, so this just makes sure
that nothing unintended is shown.)

enjoy,
-e
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