[tw] TiddlyChat 21 April : ChatReport

[Alex Hough]

First I'd like to thank the Osmosoft people for a very enjoyable day
yesterday at the TiddlyChat event.

It was interesting to meet other non-osmo TiddlyUsers in the flesh
too.  Unfortunately I was not astute enough to make notes of all the
names, I thought I'd start a thread, hopefully some gaps might get
filled in.

'Dark-matter' is the term Paul and Jeremy seem to use for stuff which
is out there that you don't know exists, and the first presenter would
be tagged as such if he found his way into a TW.  Richard Drake would
also be tagged as an advanced user.  A wiki purist, enthusiast and
interviewer of Ward Cunningham, he's done away with tags in his huge
16MB TW.  The size of the TW was of particular interest to the
audience. It is a topic that often crops up on this group. Jerm made
gestures that if printed off on A4 and stacked on the floor it would
be the height of small child.

Key to Richard's Tiddling technique is FNDs simple search plugin -
used on the TiddlyWiki.com site, but not shipped with your standard
issue TW.  The plugin produces a tiddler containing links to tiddlers
containing the search term.  But Richard has also made some other
modifications, including to how camel case text produces non existing
tiddlers and removes the need for double brackets. It was also
interesting that he's replaced the default 'this tiddler doesn't
exist' text to incorporate an external link to a google search based
on the title of the new tiddler. He's said he's share his plugin -
code name whitespace - with the group at some point.

Chris Dent showed two of his projects based on TiddlyWeb.
Manifestopheles has a linking mechanism that doesn't require double
brackets, so text is stored as clean text. The second thing he showed
was a way of writing tiddlers to TiddlyWeb using a text editor. As a
non-technical person, it was good to see these projects being
explained.  I would not be able to evoke them on my machine, as they
both seem to make use of the terminal, an interface closer to the
computers internal workings.

I am more familiar with Dickon Bevington's Treatment Manual project
[3]. The project is an open source manual for mental health
practitioners. Its now in use in a handful of projects. Dickon
explained the interesting aspect enabled by TiddlyWiki is that teams
can take the core of the manual and then adapt it to suit their
situation.

I showed OMM, my work on an organisational maturity model I've been
developing with SCiO, a systems practitioners group, and 64 Tiddlers
an experimental project involving non-linear thinking and the Knight's
move. Neither project is really ready to be put on the web, and the
opportunity to talk about a project beforehand and show it to a small
group was really valuable to me.

<Gap id='please help fill in'>
Mark came from Holand on the train - wow.
- he's intersted in serverside and http://wiki.tcl.tk

Ribit - phone your wiki!

Wiliam - social enterprise, evaluation of naratives, celicly
</gap>

apploogies for typos and spelling

Alex


[1]http://twitter.com/rdrake98
[2] http://github.com/cdent/manifestopheles
[3] http://tiddlymanuals.tiddlyspot.com/

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[Jeremy Ruston]

A big thank you from me to everyone who came along: Alex, Mark,
Richard, William, Dickon, Peter, Miles, Chris and Osmosoft. It was a
diverse group, whose interests in TiddlyWiki come from many different
directions. There was much in common in terms of the techniques people
were using, and interestingly, there were some common threads in the
goals and vision.

It was engrossing to drill down into some of the things people are
doing with TiddlyWiki, and talk through some of our ambitions for the
future. Richard's 16MB TiddlyWiki was a particular highpoint, as was
Dickon talking about the rollout of TiddlyManuals to ordinary users.

We're planning to hold these events regularly, with the next one on
May 18th, and we'd love to see some more people. If you're interested
in the TiddlyVerse, and able to get to London for an evening, mark the
date in your diary.

Matt Lucht will post some videos and photos of the event shortly,

Cheers

Jeremy

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[Matt Lucht]

I'd like to echo Jeremy's thanks! I found it to be a fun and
informative evening... Some pictures from the evening are posted
here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattlucht/sets/72157623790683699/

...Some video's will follow shortly!

Details for TiddlyChat #2 are up at:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/5742946/gb/London/TiddlyChat-2-an-open-projector-evening/Osmosoft-Towers-Room-404/?ps=5

Looking forward to meeting people again on May 18th, and hopefully
some more new faces!

Thanks,

Matt

> > - he's intersted in serverside andhttp://wiki.tcl.tk

>
> > Ribit - phone your wiki!
>
> > Wiliam - social enterprise, evaluation of naratives, celicly
> > </gap>
>
> > apploogies for typos and spelling
>
> > Alex
>
> > [1]http://twitter.com/rdrake98
> > [2]http://github.com/cdent/manifestopheles
> > [3]http://tiddlymanuals.tiddlyspot.com/
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[dickon]

Can I add my noise to this string - it was a great evening for a non-
expert to meet experts, and as with most things tiddly I may not have
understood all of it, or even much of it at times, but I always had a
strong sense of the excitement around this project, and most
importantly of the willingness and enthusiasm of its core players to
share their expertise and extend the reach of TW. Many thanks, and
will aim to be at the next one.

Dickon

On Apr 23, 12:40 pm, Matt Lucht <mattlu...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to echo Jeremy's thanks!  I found it to be a fun and
> informative evening...  Some pictures from the evening are posted
> here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattlucht/sets/72157623790683699/
>
> ...Some video's will follow shortly!
>

> Details for TiddlyChat #2 are up at:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/5742946/gb/London/TiddlyChat-2-an-ope...