Theme TW5 to look more like a traditional wiki (newbie)

[Dazzle]

Hello there,

im very new to tiddlywiki and I would like to create a personal wiki for a, kind of, knowlegde database for my, well, knowledge. But before I start to fill it with content, I want to prepare TW5 to my linking, so everything is set up from the beginning.
So I have a few question and would be very thankful if you guys could help me:
- Is there a way to theme TW5 like a standard/traditional wiki like wikipedia for example?
   - I particular:
      - Sidebar on the left with a logo in the header (the Sidebar on the right is a bit confusing, I guess I could get used to it but I dont know really, it just seems wrong kind of..)
      with different categories to select from and link to various tiddlers
      - a top bar with maybe the toolbar from the sidebar and additional links to tiddlers
      - no right Sidebar and the content of the tiddlers should completly fill the space that is left (like a regular webpage)

I already looked at TonGerners plugins on http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/ and they look very promising but not really what i am looking for (the right sidebar is still active and the show/hide function of the left bar coupled with the right Sidebar bothers me a bit, still amazing plugins!).
https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/moments.html was also very impressing, but i dont know if this is nearly achievable with my level of knowledge at the moment (no pun intended).

So i would be really thankful if someone has an idea/suggestion or could give me some advice where i have to look to obtain the knowledge to do it on my own.

regards Dazzle

[TonyM]

Dazel,

I believe everything you ask for and a lot more is possible. However it is worthwhile becoming aquanted with tiddlywikis default layout and getting to know what is possible. With a wiki the content is king along with the ability to capture relationships. Tiddlywikis unique structure, customisability and extensibility is superior not to mention the various sharing and hosting options.

The layout and look you ask for is only skin deep and can be achieved.

Regards
Tony

[Dazzle]

Thank you very much for your reply!

So you say to begin with I should use the default layout and put my content in there and tweak the design/layout in small steps to get used to tiddlywikis structure?

But could you give me some advice on how to achieve the look? Would you say it is better to move the default sidebar to the left and change the layout of it or is it better to hide the default one and create a brand new sidebar?
And you said it is only skin deep. Do I need to change the html structure or the css elements of tw to achieve this?

But thanks again for your reply!

[TonyM]

Dazzle,

Yes to your first Question "put my content in there and tweak the design/layout"

I can give you advice, on your needs, so can the rest of the forum members, perhaps ask separately for each feature if no one comes back with an existing solution. Do not depend on me too much yet because I will be travelling for a month soon.

There are plugins and customisation's that do a lot of what you are asking, including switch menu sides. Personally I can picture how to make it look a lot like WikiMedia. Personaly I think you should hide the existing sidebar, and build your own on the left or from MyMenus or other solutions.

I would solve these by searching the forum, as you can. I will provide more info if I have time.

Also using the internal settings can get some of what you ask

• such as the Control Panel, Appearance > Story View to have a single tiddler open at a time
  
• Tabs or breadcrumb plugins to add tabs to the top
• Using the >> with the sidebar tab to hide it

Of great importance is there are alternatives to the tiddlywiki out of the box look from tiles to kanban views, mobile layouts and graphical icons, not to mention my own MyMenus plugin I am just about to publish.

The Sky is not the limit with tiddlywiki, Add your content, use wiki links, tags and fields to organise your data the best way possible and yes worry about the presentation later.

Best Wishes

Tony

[TonyM]

Dazzle,

Heres how you can use the memonents them, but remember - content first, you can always more the content

Get your own copy of tiddlywiki and go to https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/themes/moments.html 

Click the Control Panel Cog icon

Select Plugins Tab > Themes

Drag Moments: A little color won't hurt

To your own wiki

Save and reload

Now on your own wiki go to control panel > appearance > Theme and Select Moments theme

"Wa la" looks good (PS Thanks for pointing this one out)

Note: The Left hand menu is displaying the sideBar tabs as menu items

See here for how to do that https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20add%20a%20new%20tab%20to%20the%20sidebar

Regards

Tony

[TonyM]

Dazzle,

I imported my logo into Tiddly wiki

Created the TopRightBar Tiddler tagged $:/tags/TopRightBar

and after some fiddling referenced my logo with this by placing it in TopRightBar

<span style="display:none;">ACPAD</span>[img width=252 class="tc-image" [mylogo.png]]

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Regards

Tony

[Dazzle]

First of all, thank you very much for your detailed answer!
So to begin with I will start to create some tiddlers and fill my wiki with content. I will then try to change some things here and there and import some plugins. Maybe I am succeful :D
I will report in a few days to show my progress :D