TiddlyWiki and Google Chrome for Mac

[Wordius]

I've added the following question to the Quora 'TiddlyWiki' topic
(http://www.quora.com/TiddlyWiki/Why-do-TiddlyWiki-and-Google-Chrome-
at-least-on-a-Mac-not-get-on).

### Why do TiddlyWiki and Google Chrome (at least on a Mac) not get
on? ###

I've spent the past 24 hours trying to get TiddlyWiki and Google
Chrome, my default browser, to work together. Nothing doing.

The problem appears to be something to do with a file, which is all
TiddlyWiki is, saving a file cookie.

I've read about solutions for PC users, but these don't translate to
the Mac. TWs created locally seem to be more successful than those
created server side—on something like TiddlySpot—but only marginally.

FireFox seems to work, but everything I do day to day is geared to
Chrome, so I'm reluctant to switch. And I know I can run the two side
by side, but it's hardly ideal.

[HansBKK]

On Tuesday, February 14, 2012 11:22:42 PM UTC+7, Wordius wrote:

I've added the following question to the Quora 'TiddlyWiki' topic
(http://www.quora.com/TiddlyWiki/Why-do-TiddlyWiki-and-Google-Chrome-
at-least-on-a-Mac-not-get-on).

Not just on Macs, not just with Chrome, many people have reported problems such problems with many combinations of TW flavors, OS and modern browsers. The reason is that the latter have tightened up the fundamental data model for security reasons.

For specific TW flavors and combinations of plugins, many people have come up with ways to make things work for them, but the fundamental problem isn't solved until the next generation TW5 code is ready for prime time.

FireFox seems to work, but everything I do day to day is geared to Chrome, so I'm reluctant to switch. And I know I can run the two side by side, but it's hardly ideal.

For my many-plugin customized TWs running on Windows, the last Firefox v3.6 is the only platform that doesn't require more fiddling about than I'm willing to give and works just fine. I use other browsers for my day-to-day, just set *.htm to launch with FF and only use *.html for normal pages to launch my default (Chrome).

I don't know about "portable apps" on Mac, the only serious downside may be that you can't also have a more modern version of FF installed, and make sure you check out how to "lock in" your version so FF doesn't automatically upgrade itself.

[Eric Weir]

On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:30 PM, HansBKK wrote:

For my many-plugin customized TWs running on Windows, the last Firefox v3.6 is the only platform that doesn't require more fiddling about than I'm willing to give and works just fine. I use other browsers for my day-to-day, just set *.htm to launch with FF and only use *.html for normal pages to launch my default (Chrome).

Safari [5.1.2] works reasonably well for me, though I've had some Mac-specific problems with TW, as I recall, related to saving, perhaps to using "save as." There is a least one plugin that won't work for me, though I'm able to get around that by using the bookmarklet version of the plugin.

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[Grmble]

In my personal experience, everything revolves about the need for a
functioning java plugin. If the Chrome does not have a java plugin or
the java plugin does not work, you are out of luck.

This may involve the user having to install and try out different java
versions from different providers. I've had no luck with OpenJDK and
always install the latest Java6 from Sun/Oracle. I have had trouble
with Java7 as well. Your mileage may vary. The 64-bit/32-bit
confusion does not help either - i.e. on a 64-bit operating system,
with a 32-bit chrome, you may have to install a 32-bit java / java
plugin. That one took me some trial and error on my girl friends
windows computer. I don't have access to a Mac that can run Chrome so
I can't tell you anything specific there.

I've seen reports where users also needed command line switches for
chrome to make it work. I have never needed to do that but again your
mileage may vary.

I've tried to help one Mac user where the issue seemed to be that his
Java Plugin could not execute signed Jar files.

Personally I've migrated away from Mac a couple of years ago when
Apple stopped supplying current JDKs. I code Java for a living, a
computer without a current JDK is useless to me. I have no personal
experience what the Java/Mac situation is right now but it does not
seem to have improved

Kind regards,
Juergen

[HansBKK]

like I said 8-)

[Wordius]

@HansBKK
I've settled on using TW with FF.

Nothing I tried with Chrome allowed me to save, including creating
Chrome shortcuts and running command line switches.

@Grmble
The Java plugin seems to be the problem on my Mac under OS X Lion
10.7.2 with the latest version of Chrome.