Who/what/where is the Tinka Plugin currently being developed?
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Matthew Lauber
Feb 21, 2017, 12:46:24 PM2/21/17
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All, especially Andreas Hahn,
Does anyone know where the canonical source for the Tinka Plugin is at this point? It's such a useful plugin that I want to make sure it's kept around somewhere, and the link in the version I have "http://twguides.org/tinka" is not available. So I'm asking, is there an updated source, and is there someplace I can contribute to the continued development of the plugin? The plugin itself doesn't contain a license, so I'm hesitant to just fork and publish my changes.
Matt Lauber
Thomas Elmiger
Feb 21, 2017, 4:23:20 PM2/21/17
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Hi Matt,
Andreas Hahn stated here that he was no longer able to maintain or host the plugin. So the plugin is officialy homeless (but there are still some copies around). I use it myself and would appreciate if it could be secured, licensed and supported!
All the best!
Thomas
Andreas Hahn stated here that he was no longer able to maintain or host the plugin. So the plugin is officialy homeless (but there are still some copies around). I use it myself and would appreciate if it could be secured, licensed and supported!
All the best!
Thomas
Jed Carty
Feb 21, 2017, 4:36:24 PM2/21/17
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If someone can point me to a copy of the plugin I can host it on ooktech.com, I make no guarantees about support or development, but if there are specific feature requests I can try to do some.
Thomas Elmiger
Feb 21, 2017, 4:39:12 PM2/21/17
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Jeremy Ruston
Feb 21, 2017, 4:52:44 PM2/21/17
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Hi Jed, Thomas,
We had this kind of situation with TW Classic, and it was the driver for making the TW5 plugin library cater for third party plugins. Jed, would you be willing to make a pull request to add Tinka to the core library?
Best wishes
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Matthew Lauber
Feb 21, 2017, 5:01:23 PM2/21/17
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Does it make sense to have a first party plugin library separate from the TiddlyWiki5 core repo? Or at least have the TW5 plugin-library update more often than the TW5 core? It'd be nice to be able to submit updates for plugins and have them show up in days rather than months.
PMario
Feb 21, 2017, 7:22:15 PM2/21/17
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On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 10:39:12 PM UTC+1, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
I did reach out with a pm to Andreas, and see, if he can clarify the license. .. Since tinka has none, which is a problem, if we want to adopt and maintain it.
-mario
-mario
David Szego
Feb 21, 2017, 8:55:43 PM2/21/17
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While we're at it... Bug report: Every time you rebuild a package it resets the version number to 0.0.1!! But, I love the plugin!
Andreas Hahn
Feb 25, 2017, 1:57:14 PM2/25/17
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Hi,
sorry for my late response, I just didn't see the topic on here sooner.
When it comes to the Tinka plugin, I will setup a github repo within the next few days containing all files that I have on it and a proper license[1], so that it is hopefully in an easily modifiable and forkable state for the future.
@David: I will look into it, but it might just be that you didn't use TiddlyWiki's versioning format, since I am using the standard versioning functions that TW already provides for this. (It might also be that due to changes in TW this is now broken)
@Matt: Since Tinka was developed entirely within the browser at the time, I am hoping to split up some files and clean up the code when it comes to the custom action widgets contained within (and also prefix all their names with 'tinka-'). Please let me know if I should keep anything in mind with regards to the changes you intend to make/made.
/Andreas
[1] Quick question: I am thinking to just go with the MIT license here ... Will that pose any problems in the future? Would BSD be better?
sorry for my late response, I just didn't see the topic on here sooner.
When it comes to the Tinka plugin, I will setup a github repo within the next few days containing all files that I have on it and a proper license[1], so that it is hopefully in an easily modifiable and forkable state for the future.
@David: I will look into it, but it might just be that you didn't use TiddlyWiki's versioning format, since I am using the standard versioning functions that TW already provides for this. (It might also be that due to changes in TW this is now broken)
@Matt: Since Tinka was developed entirely within the browser at the time, I am hoping to split up some files and clean up the code when it comes to the custom action widgets contained within (and also prefix all their names with 'tinka-'). Please let me know if I should keep anything in mind with regards to the changes you intend to make/made.
/Andreas
[1] Quick question: I am thinking to just go with the MIT license here ... Will that pose any problems in the future? Would BSD be better?
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Jed Carty
Feb 25, 2017, 2:29:07 PM2/25/17
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Andreas,
Good to hear! I was about to post asking if you had a license in mind if I hosted a copy of it. I think that the MIT license is an appropriate choice for TiddlyWiki plugins like this, it seems like a 'put it on and never think about it again' sort of license.
Matthew Lauber
Feb 25, 2017, 9:29:27 PM2/25/17
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@Andreas Hahn,
Great to hear from you. My only planned changes thus far were to correct a few typos where you used "$/temp/..." instead of "$:/temp/..." since it was cluttering up my All Tiddlers sidebar. Thanks for the incredible plugin!
Matt Lauber
Andreas Hahn
Mar 1, 2017, 7:15:58 PM3/1/17
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I have moved the Tinka plugin to a new
home (see other topic), it is now available on github:
Repo: https://github.com/TinkaPlugin/Tinka
Wiki: https://tinkaplugin.github.io/
Let me know if you run into any problems using it,
/Andreas
Repo: https://github.com/TinkaPlugin/Tinka
Wiki: https://tinkaplugin.github.io/
Let me know if you run into any problems using it,
/Andreas
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PMario
Mar 2, 2017, 2:44:36 AM3/2/17
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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 7:57:14 PM UTC+1, Andreas Hahn wrote:
[1] Quick question: I am thinking to just go with the MIT license here ... Will that pose any problems in the future? Would BSD be better?
MIT is fine. .... The main difference between BSD and MIT are the 2 or 3 additional clauses BSD has. But MIT is compatible with BSD.
TW uses "BSD 3 clause" ... and CC-BY Creative Commons Attribution for the content.
-m
David Szego
Jan 1, 2019, 8:18:54 PM1/1/19
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Hi Andreas, happy new year and I hope you're well. I couldn't find a better place for a bug report so I'll add it to this thread hoping you'll get an alert about it.
In Tinka 0.4.0 it seems that if I make a change to a theme's css file, and re-package the theme, I lose the changed shadow Tiddler.
Let me know what detail I can give you.
Best,
David Szego
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