[TW5] Regression with file path in TiddlyDesktop + 5.0.10

[Alberto Molina]

Hi Jeremy,

When saving an empty TW 5.0.10 file in TiddlyDesktop, I get an internal javascript error (see picture) when there is an accented characted in the path.

No problem with TW 5.0.9 files in the same path.
No problem with TW 5.0.10 files in non accented paths.

I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.

Best wishes,
Alberto

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Alberto,

Please, no offense I also have special characters in my native language. But why people insist in using special characters in file and folder names? I always hated it. It makes everything harder for TI guys and any other computer science related guy.

I'm sure Jeremy will fix it, but in my opinion is a bad practice. Maybe I'm a bit sensible about this because I have suffered it many times :P

[Alberto Molina]

Hola Danielo,

Hello Alberto,

Please, no offense I also have special characters in my native language.

Your native language is also mine :)

But why people insist in using special characters in file and folder names? I always hated it. It makes everything harder for TI guys and any other computer science related guy.

I just insist in using my own language, because:

1. its my own stuff and I prefer to use the names that are more meaningful to me (and are correctly written);
2. as a user, I do not experiment so many problems with accented characters (at least in GNU/Linux) to be really conscious of how much harder it makes everything for IT guys and related; (sorry guys! :-(
   
3. even if most of the people/companies who created modern computers and software are native English speakers, I see no reason why ITs should be english only; why Spanish, German, Turkish, Indian and Korean people should not be able to use their own language for their own stuff?
   

 
And if everything is harder for IT guys when using non-english characters, maybe it's not users problem nor even IT guys (and related) problem, but a problem of the structures of the IT world.

I'm sure Jeremy will fix it, but in my opinion is a bad practice.

I'm aware of the problem so I can avoid it, for instance using symbolic links, but other users less experienced could not understand where the problem is and how to avoid it. And it would be great if Spanish, German, Turkish, Indian and Korean people could use TW without facing that kind of problem.

 

Maybe I'm a bit sensible about this because I have suffered it many times :P

I understand you, and I'm sure you can understand other people who are sensible about using their own language since their have suffered it in the past (you know the case of Galician, Catalan and Basque people, among others) or are now suffering it.

Saludos y gracias por todo lo que estás haciendo por TW, te lo estás currando!

Alberto

[Birthe C]

Hi Alberto

I sympatise.

I do not have problems with file and folder names, but my TW had field names with æ, ø and å .Letters much used in danish language. Upgrading to TW 5.0.10 and this doesn't work any more.

Birthe

[Danielo Rodríguez]

 

Your native language is also mine :)

I suspected it ;) 

 

1. even if most of the people/companies who created modern computers and software are native English speakers, I see no reason why ITs should be english only; why Spanish, German, Turkish, Indian and Korean people should not be able to use their own language for their own stuff?
   

 
And if everything is harder for IT guys when using non-english characters, maybe it's not users problem nor even IT guys (and related) problem, but a problem of the structures of the IT world.

I'm sure Jeremy will fix it, but in my opinion is a bad practice.

I'm aware of the problem so I can avoid it, for instance using symbolic links, but other users less experienced could not understand where the problem is and how to avoid it. And it would be great if Spanish, German, Turkish, Indian and Korean people could use TW without facing that kind of problem.

 

This is not about language but characters.  Note that english speakers also have special characters like ' ? ! and they are also non recommended for file or dir names 

 

I understand you, and I'm sure you can understand other people who are sensible about using their own language since their have suffered it in the past (you know the case of Galician, Catalan and Basque people, among others) or are now suffering it.

I know those cases, but I don't feel identified with a particular language. 

 

Saludos y gracias por todo lo que estás haciendo por TW, te lo estás currando!

Alberto

De nada! Lo hago por puro hobbie y porque realmente creo que TW es el mejor software para tomar notas que he encontrado jamás.  Me alegro que le resulte útil a alguien más que a mí.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Thanks Alberto, I've created a ticket:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/issues/22

Best wishes

Jeremy

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