Announcing TiddlyWiki 5.0.15-beta

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Jeremy Ruston

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Aug 20, 2014, 6:47:00 PM8/20/14
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I'm pleased to announce the release of TiddlyWiki 5.0.15-beta:


Upgrade your existing wikis at http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html - taking care to keep a backup, of course.

* Added the ability to disable plugins
* Added a banner to the edit template of tiddlywiki.com with instructions for submitting documentation improvements via github
* Fixed a layout problem when building on Windows
* Introduced a new refresh button and reverted home button behaviour

As usual, there's many more smaller changes - see http://tiddlywiki.com/#ReleaseHistory for details.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback, and especially @xcazin and @BramChen for their work on the French and Chinese translations.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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Ton Gerner

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Aug 21, 2014, 4:36:16 AM8/21/14
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Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the upgrade to 5.0.15-beta.
One feature was already very useful: disabling plugins.
After upgrading my 5.0.14 version of TW5 tristate Sidebar [1] the tristate functionality did not work. I thought I had to repack the plugin, but tried to disable (+ save/reload) it first. And yes after enabling (+ save/reload) it did work again. So no repacking needed.

One question (has nothing to do with the upgrade):
I added a 'readme' file to my plugin (it shows up as shadow tiddler) and thought the information should show up when clicking the '>' button next to the plugin. But it only shows 'No information provided'.
Did I miss something?

Cheers,

Ton

[1] http://tw5tristate.tiddlyspot.com/

Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 21, 2014, 11:29:05 AM8/21/14
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Hey Ton,

Glad you started to pack your customizations  into plugins. This is definitively good for several reasons:
You can easily install them.
You can easily remove them.

It is very elegant and nice.

Ton Gerner

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Aug 21, 2014, 11:48:54 AM8/21/14
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Hi Danielo,

You are right.

My Bluish theme is already a plugin (longtime ago "hacked" together). I have to make a nice plugin of it.
My readonly plugin was my first real plugin. It did work in TW5.0.13-beta, but now I have problems.Needs time to fix it.
My tristate toggle Sidebar plugin works with TW5.0.15-beta.
Other customizations will follow but first I have to upgrade all my guides to TW5.0.15-beta.

I make my plugins in the browser. I remember you did that in the past as well.

Cheers,

Ton

BJ

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Aug 21, 2014, 12:15:37 PM8/21/14
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Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the recent upgrades, things are looking polished, very nice.

BJ


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Alberto Molina

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Aug 21, 2014, 3:03:59 PM8/21/14
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Hi Ton,

I am also interested in doing a plugin from TiddlyWiki for Scholars, but I thought Java script skills were needed. How do you did your plugins?

Regards,

Alberto

Ton Gerner

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Aug 21, 2014, 3:48:23 PM8/21/14
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Hi Alberto,

My Javascript skills are non-existent. A long time ago I did some programming in Basic and lateron Turbo Pascal but I never learned Javascript.

A plugin is nothing more than a set of tiddlers packaged as a plugin.
I do it in a standalone TW according to 'How to create plugins in the browser' (search for it at http://tiddlywiki.com/).

You can also have a look at [1] and [2], the guides where I describe my 2 plugins.
Hope that helps.
If you have any questions, just ask.

Cheers,

Ton

[1] http://tw5tristate.tiddlyspot.com/ (TW5.0.15-beta)
[2] http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/ (TW5.0.13-beta)

Alberto Molina

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Aug 21, 2014, 6:31:11 PM8/21/14
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Hi Ton


My Javascript skills are non-existent. A long time ago I did some programming in Basic and lateron Turbo Pascal but I never learned Javascript.

idem :)
 
A plugin is nothing more than a set of tiddlers packaged as a plugin.
I do it in a standalone TW according to 'How to create plugins in the browser' (search for it at http://tiddlywiki.com/).

You can also have a look at [1] and [2], the guides where I describe my 2 plugins.

Thanks! I'm going to try.

Cheers,

Alberto

Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 22, 2014, 3:18:00 AM8/22/14
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Hello Alberto and Ton.

If you have no JS skills and use the browser to pack plugins you may find this useful:

Ton Gerner

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Aug 22, 2014, 3:46:59 AM8/22/14
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Hi Danielo,

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

Cheers,

Ton

Alberto Molina

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Aug 22, 2014, 4:30:32 AM8/22/14
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Hi Danielo,

Cool ! I'll try.

Alberto

Chris Dent

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Aug 25, 2014, 1:04:12 PM8/25/14
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On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:47:00 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
I'm pleased to announce the release of TiddlyWiki 5.0.15-beta:

I've incorporated this release into the latest version of Tank:


If you use it please let me know if there are problems by reporting an issue at https://github.com/cdent/tank/issues

Thanks.

Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 26, 2014, 4:12:45 AM8/26/14
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I just registered into your tank application.

Do you have plans to make it work with some offline apps or it will be 100% online?

Chris Dent

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Aug 26, 2014, 5:36:15 AM8/26/14
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On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:12:45 AM UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
I just registered into your tank application.

Do you have plans to make it work with some offline apps or it will be 100% online?

As things currently stand, from a technology standpoint there's nothing stopping Tank from working with fully offline apps or with apps that are offline just some of the time. The HTTP API[1] in Tank is the TiddlyWeb API so can work well with anything that can do GET and PUT. CORS is supported so the usual problems with cross-domain situations aren't a problem.

Anyone who is registered with Tank can create new compositions[2]. These are a way of packaging up functionality (such as TW5) to work with a collection of tiddlers. The functionality can be pretty much anything. Existing functionality includes: tw5, twc, a bookmarking system and a journalling tool.

Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 26, 2014, 11:45:57 AM8/26/14
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Hello Chris,

Good to know. How do you want to get the problem reports? Do you have any specific tank group?

chris...@gmail.com

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Aug 26, 2014, 11:57:15 AM8/26/14
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2014, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

> Good to know. How do you want to get the problem reports? Do you have any
> specific tank group?

There's a tiddlyweb group[1] and a github repo with issues for tank[2].
For something that is specifically a bug in tank, the github issues
is the way to go.

From tank itself, on the bottom of a lot pages is an "Issues" link
which goes to the github issues page.

[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlyweb
[2] https://github.com/cdent/tank/issues
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Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 28, 2014, 3:15:36 AM8/28/14
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If you open tiddlywiki.com on IOS or Android you will get a Javascript error.
At least on Chrome and Safari.

Regards-

Matthew DeAbreu

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Aug 28, 2014, 3:37:00 AM8/28/14
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Just opened tiddlywiki.com in safari on my iPhone 4 running iOS 7.1.1 and in chrome 36.0.1985.135 on my Nexus 7 running stock android 4.4.4; it seems to load fine for me with no issues. Could you give some more details about what caused the errors?

Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 28, 2014, 3:54:52 AM8/28/14
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Yes, 

It was some kind of too many levels of transclusions. I can check today. I was on ios 6

Jeremy Ruston

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Aug 28, 2014, 4:02:45 AM8/28/14
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I don't have an ios 6 device for testing but would be keen to fix the problem if we can. If anyone has access to a device and can report the exact error message that would be very useful,

Many thanks

Jeremy


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Danielo Rodríguez

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Aug 28, 2014, 4:12:27 AM8/28/14
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El jueves, 21 de agosto de 2014 10:36:16 UTC+2, Ton Gerner escribió:

One question (has nothing to do with the upgrade):
I added a 'readme' file to my plugin (it shows up as shadow tiddler) and thought the information should show up when clicking the '>' button next to the plugin. But it only shows 'No information provided'.
Did I miss something?

Hello ton, on the plugin.info you have to add  "list": "readme"  as a value.
For example:

{
"title": "$:/plugins/danielo515/import-tools",
"description": "patch for more atomic imports",
"author": "DanieloRodrigez",
"version": "0.0.5",
"core-version": ">=5.0.14",
"plugin-type": "plugin",
"list": "readme"
}

Ton Gerner

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Aug 28, 2014, 4:46:19 AM8/28/14
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Hi Danielo,

Thanks for answering.
.
I asked the same question in the last hangout and Jeremy answered it.
If I remember correctly, it is not only the list field but also a plugin icon you have to add.

Cheers,

Ton

Ton Gerner

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Aug 28, 2014, 4:58:25 AM8/28/14
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Hi Jeremy, Danielo,

I tested with:
  • Nexus 7 Chrome on Android 4.4.4 No problem
  • iPod with iOS 6 and Safari. Javascript error. RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded

Cheers,

Ton

Jeremy Ruston

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Aug 28, 2014, 5:39:36 AM8/28/14
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Hi Ton

.
I asked the same question in the last hangout and Jeremy answered it.
If I remember correctly, it is not only the list field but also a plugin icon you have to add.

The plugin icon is optional; if not provided then a default icon is used.

Best wishes

Jeremy

 

Cheers,

Ton


On Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:12:27 AM UTC+2, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:


El jueves, 21 de agosto de 2014 10:36:16 UTC+2, Ton Gerner escribió:

One question (has nothing to do with the upgrade):
I added a 'readme' file to my plugin (it shows up as shadow tiddler) and thought the information should show up when clicking the '>' button next to the plugin. But it only shows 'No information provided'.
Did I miss something?

Hello ton, on the plugin.info you have to add  "list": "readme"  as a value.
For example:

{
"title": "$:/plugins/danielo515/import-tools",
"description": "patch for more atomic imports",
"author": "DanieloRodrigez",
"version": "0.0.5",
"core-version": ">=5.0.14",
"plugin-type": "plugin",
"list": "readme"
}

Ton Gerner

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Aug 28, 2014, 7:04:49 AM8/28/14
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Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for clarifying.

Cheers,

Ton
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