Realistic use cases for Tiddlywiki multiuser

[Arlen Beiler]

Hello all,

I find the idea of having a tiddlywiki hosted online that anyone can edit quite intriguing. But I am wondering what use cases would there be for that.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

the issue would be about control of the multi-users, I think. Their delegated rights would matter to running something real.

I could do with it on a project around the novel Great Expectations where I have multiple participants already. Right now I do it through email. If I could do it directly in TW I would.

Josiah

[ste...@gmail.com]

I'd love to have such a feature, but for an ordinary tiddlywiki hosted on a local company file server. This way, the members of a team could collaborate without the need for a hosted service or a web server. The wiki could e. g. be used to write a booklet or manual, to collect information for a certain project etc.  

In my opinion, this would require revision control, login/user management and some mechanism to either prevent or handle simultaneous edits. Would this be feasible?

Cheers,

Stef  

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Danielo on NoteSelf seems pretty close on this. Partly because he can offload much of the issue to a remote database, leaving the TW only to have to cope with negotiation. I think that is smart & lightweight.

Josiah

On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 21:36:53 UTC+2, Arlen Beiler wrote:

[Mat]

My take on it, in very general terms:

1) Same use cases as with a personal TW but with input from multiple brains.

2) Same uses cases as most other (non-TW) wikis hosted online that anyone can edit.

That probably covers most of it. But there may be special aspects of an online-anyone-edit-TW that non-TW's don't feature, that enable use cases unique. Beause of my inexperience with other wikis I don't know what these might be.

One interesting aspect is what I believe NoteSelf might enable; an intersection between a shared wiki and a personal one. A shared workspace(?) where you also have personal notes that are really local.

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To give a concrete use case, I'll mention "family household wikis". This has personally been my most important TW application so far...  unfortunately with only me adding/editing. Would be great if family members could safely edit stuff. 

Professionally, I guess it could be used as an intranet. But much depends on how it performs with other software, i.e running applications, manage documents etc. So I guess that brings demands outside of the immediate question of yours about "tw hosted online that anyone can edit".

<:-)

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hi Arlen,
A multiuser-Setting would vastly expand the possibilities for using TW in education. For example I would like to have a more automatized was of integrating the result of tasks into TW than the export-email-import I use now.

Yours Jan

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[TonyM]

A multi-user tiddlyWiki I am currently toying with, somewhat a thought bubble
is for the creation of what I call micro-sites. In fact A micro-site is one tiddler plus any related tiddlers.

The multi-user part is I want to permit the public to contribute there own micro-sites, so I would like a little user control, if for not other reason to register users by email address and be able to ban them and delete their contributions if it proves to be spam.

Regards
Tony

[Lost Admin]

I see TiddlyWiki as one of the options or steps in a range of needs:

1) A text file or word document: I need to write some stuff down for me.

2) Tiddlywiki on my desktop: when I need to write down a bunch of related stuff that changes a lot and the word document takes too long to load/becomes hard to manage.

3) Tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot (or own-hosted solution): when I need to write down a bunch of relates stuff that I change a lot and want to let a bunch of other people see. (very similar to hosted static web pages but easier to set-up).

4) multi-user Tiddlywiki (hosted): when a few trusted people need to keep a bunch of related stuff organized but it isn't worth the effort/cost of created a full-on wiki (or sharepoint).

5) traditional wiki (i.e. phpwiki): when a bunch of semi-trusted people need to maintain a lot of related information and share it either with each-other or a lot of people. 

6) Sharepoint and other things: We want something like a massive shared networked desktop environment with databases, fill-in forms,  file storage, information pages, private pages for a lot of users (yes at this stage Sharepoint sucks but I don't know of any other solution that actually does what Sharepoint does when fully utilized).

[Danielo Rodríguez]

All the scenarios you have described are currently possible with NoteSelf and a remote database with the proper configurations

[David Szego]

Cardo would hugely benefit from this... If I could share certain Tiddlers (projects, tasks, references) with others but protect my own tasks etc. from being edited, I could have a whole project team working from one file!