Lost Tiddly that I need back

[EParKer 1211]

I wrote a very detailed and very important short story and I saved all my work using the red circle icon before closing down my web browser. Before I realised where I could've written something better and went back to change my notes when I couldn't find my work, ANYWHERE. I have looked in history, Tiddly history, my downloads, backups, support groups, etc. But I can't find my missing SAVED work! I spent a lot of time trying to perfect it and I was finally happy enough to take a break and now I can't return to my work at all. PLEASE find SOME WAY to bring back my lost work because all of my files are not up to date enough to register a tiddly since last month.

[Mark S.]

How are you saving? file-backup Plugin? Node.js? Bob?

[Sycom]

Hello,

I have no answer for you, but I'm pretty sure that anyone who may have will need more context to help :

* what is your wiki version?

* we guess your wiki is standalone (single file) can you confirm?

* which save method do you use?

And anything else specific to your usage (plugins? OS? ...)

Let us know. I wish you the best.

Cheers,

Sylvain

@sycom

[Mat]

EP - a few comments:

Did you get the yellowish confirmation note stating "Saved wiki"?

As others here note; we need more info about your system.

Are you perhaps using the newly introduced Browser based local storage plugin?... in which case your data is automatically saved but only on that particular machine used.

Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this might be the problem?

In Chrome, Typio Form Recovery has saved me a few times... but typically more to recover non-TW data.

...and this one is going to feel like an insult but it's not: Do you know about the first rule of TW?

<:-)

[coda coder]

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 10:04:13 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:

Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this might be the problem?

Hey Mat - did you try path/my-wiki?x=something-unique

[Mat]

coda coder wrote:

Are you by any chance on FF - in which case this might be the problem?

Hey Mat - did you try path/my-wiki?x=something-unique

I don't even understand what you're talking about. Probably something with TW on node.js, which I don't use... I typically put my TWs on Tiddlyspot but I'd guess(!) the problem would be the same from a local (singlefile) TW. Is your magic incantation still something for me? appreciated, regardless.

<:-)

[coda coder]

https://tiddlywiki.com?x=123

You can automate this via a batch file, using the system datetime (for example) instead of having to think up a new unique value.

https://www.keycdn.com/support/what-is-cache-busting

[TonyM]

EParKer 1211

I empathise with your situation, and personally I find such loss devastating as well. As stated we need more information to help. 

Reentering something you lost can be frustrating but I suggest while you look for it you go ahead and try writing it again, whilst it may not be the same, it may even be better. 

The fresher it is in your mind the better. Learning to live with such disappointment is difficult, I know.

Once this is all over return and ask for support strengthening your use of tiddly wiki to avoid this in future.

Regards

Tony

[Mat]

coda coder wrote:

https://www.keycdn.com/support/what-is-cache-busting

Oh!? Will need to explore this closer (but too tired right now). Much appreciated.

<:-)

[TonyM]

Mat,

Tiddlywiki does have access to local storage / cookies even without the local storage plugin, which is designed to go further and store changed tiddlers. Perhaps an addon to tiddlywiki that stores the last few text fields a bit like utilities such as your Typio would support more resilience on this.

I built a note taker for in class some time ago and found the need to click done to ensure my changes were saved in the wiki, even if it was not saved to file very frustrating. I now use a method to edit the text field such that every character is saved and with autosave on, I am confident I will not loose a byte. This is especially important on mobile where it is so easy to accidentally select some text and erase it with a keystroke. By staying in the editor ctrl-z Undo and ctrl-x Redo is available should you accidently damage you notes, this is not available after a done and re-open. I also make use of a done/save and keep open button.

Regards

Tony

[A Gloom]

EParKer 1211

For the best help, we'll need to know which TW platform you were using (single-file, node, etc), any saver/backup plug-in you may had, which browser you may had used (and if it was in private mode), OS.

Time can be critical if you want to recover from browser cache or hard drive.  Don't clear browser history/files (if you're browser is set to do so on shutdown,, disable that setting (but the damage may already been done if so))

[Birthe C]

We all feel hurt, just thinking about it. It seems a lot of us have been in this situation. Everybody mentions that we need more information. To me the original message sounds as if it is not only the latest tiddlers that is missed but the wiki that can not be found. If so that is quite another problem. It must be there somewhere, saved or not saved. (I have always found my wiki but on two occasions with a very small size grrrr). That happened due to the browser closing unexpectedly.

Let's mention again that tidldyspot has very nice backup, easy to use. Dropbox keeps backup of the latest savings, but after the last changes I do not find it quite that easy to use.

After the browser changing (saving everything to the download folder it was easy to get at mess. empty.html, tiddlywiki.html with lots of numbers after them. GRRR. Using 32 bit computer I was not able to use timimi. (I do know of file-backups). Now with a new computer, timimi is a wonder, saving quickly and backups just right.

Naming your wiki file matching the content also helps finding it in you computer folders. Starting a new tiddlywiki I find https://tiddlywiki.com/#Hidden%20Setting%3A%20Filename%20for%20Save%20Wiki%20Button a good help - if I find a good title for my wiki.

Enthusiasts really need to be creative with titles, and filenaming as the amount of Tiddlywikies grows rapidly.

@A Gloom mentioned maybe the most important Time can be critical.

Birthe