New to TiddlyWiki - very basic question

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Jake S

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Dec 16, 2017, 3:42:57 PM12/16/17
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Hi all,


I tried out TiddlyWiki for the first time a few days ago and I love it.  Wish I had discovered this years ago!

I have what I am sure is a very basic question, and I would love help - but I am very much a beginner to this (and to computer apps like this one).  If answers can be posted in the simplest terms possible, that would be great.

When I first tried out TiddlyWiki last week, I went to tiddlywiki.com and clicked Download Empty from the home page - so I am assuming that I downloaded the latest version.  

I then made 6 pages (are they called tiddlers?) for a work project and tagged them. I thought about it for a few days, and decided I want to continue using TiddlyWiki, and use it on a much larger scale for organizing my project data.  I also wanted to make a completely separate TiddlyWiki for home projects.  So I went back in and moved my work Tiddly to a new folder on my computer and renamed the .html file (I had started out saving it in a temporary place because I didn't know if this software would be the solution I was looking for).  I also created a duplicate file and moved it a different folder where I store my home project stuff. 

When I next re-opened the TiddlyWiki I had started making for my work projects, it was completely empty,   It shows the Getting Started page which asks for a title for the new TiddlyWiki.  Did this happen because I moved the TiddlyWiki to a new place on my computer?  Or because I renamed the file?  I tried changing the file name back, and tried to move the file back to where it was (but I can't quite remember the filename, and the name and location of the temporary folder I had originally put the TiddlyWiki in).

I can re-create the content I suppose, but I want to know what I did wrong so that I never do it again after creating a larger TiddlyWiki. It would be catastrophic to start using this organization system and have it all get lost in the future.  

Related questions:  I am also wondering if all the files I link to in my TIddlyWiki have to remain at the same location forever on my computer for the links to work properly (and how does this work out if you put the TiddlyWiki on a thumb drive?  will the wiki still work?).  What happens if I get a new laptop and want to transfer the TiddlyWiki over to the new computer?

Thanks for any help you can offer!
-J

P.S.  Also if anyone knows of a good go-to tutorial beyond the 10 or 15 min basic videos (I have watched several), that would address questions like the ones above, I would appreciate the advice.   I'd like to get to be more of an expert in using this.  Thanks again!

PMario

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Dec 16, 2017, 3:54:17 PM12/16/17
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On Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 9:42:57 PM UTC+1, Jake S wrote:
Hi all,

Hi Jack,
Welcome to the club ;)
 
When I first tried out TiddlyWiki last week, I went to tiddlywiki.com and clicked Download Empty from the home page - so I am assuming that I downloaded the latest version.  

Right.
 
I then made 6 pages (are they called tiddlers?)

yes
 
for a work project and tagged them. I thought about it for a few days, and decided I want to continue using TiddlyWiki, and use it on a much larger scale for organizing my project data.  I also wanted to make a completely separate TiddlyWiki for home projects.  So I went back in and moved my work Tiddly to a new folder on my computer and renamed the .html file (I had started out saving it in a temporary place because I didn't know if this software would be the solution I was looking for).  I also created a duplicate file and moved it a different folder where I store my home project stuff. 

If you use the default browser save mechanism, you should set your browser "save settings" to "Always ask before saving" ... Otherwise browsers will save your changes as test.html, test (1).html, test (x).html ... So test.html will be empty, because your content is in test (x).html

-m

Jake S

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Dec 16, 2017, 4:27:28 PM12/16/17
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Hi there,

Thanks for the response.  I'm not really sure I understand what you mean.  I am using Google Chrome (version 63.0. ...) with a Mac.  Are you talking about the Downloads setting in Chrome?  

If I look in Chrome Settings, under Downloads the option is already checked for "Ask where to save each file before downloading".  I know this to be true, because I routinely download items and don't just want them to go the random mess of the Downloads folder.  

I did a search on my computer for a file called test.html - I didn't find any like that.  
-J

Joshua Fontany

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Dec 16, 2017, 6:52:21 PM12/16/17
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Hi Jake,

I am not sure of your full work-flow, but from what you have describes you downloaded an empty Tiddlywiki to a local test.html file.

Then you opened that file, and edited the wiki by adding 6 content tiddlers.

At this point, did you save your work by clicking the (now colored) Save Checkmark button to "re-download" your wiki to a (new/existing) local file?

When working with wikis as stand-alone files, default "saving mechanism" is that the changes that you make to your wiki in the browser are not saved to disk until you specifically tell it to and what filename.

There are other ways of handling the "save" problem, see: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving

Hope this helps,
Joshua Fontany
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