TiddlySpot Documentation missing

[jasondunham]

Earlier this year, lots of the TW documentation was moved to
TiddlySpace, including the mGSD Documentation. I had written an mGSD
customization article on the new tiddlyspace site, but now it's gone.
Can we figure out where it went or if there is a backup I can restore?

The page I originally wrote was the content at
http://oldwiki.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Custom_Project_Classifications.
In April I found it had been migrated to http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/
--> "Custom Project Classifications" (Please tell me there's a way
to get a URL directly to a tiddler and I'm just too dumb to figure it
out!!!)

Anyway. I had more content to add, and I felt it was mis-named. So I
edited the article and I reposted the content to a new Tiddler on that
same page called "Adding another Project or Action Status", and then I
changed the old tiddler to point to the new one. IIRC I changed it a
few times over the next few days with no problems.

Fast-forward to today, when I was trying to point someone else to that
information. Browsing the tiddlyspace page, that tiddler is gone,
except in the Missing Tiddlers list. I have no idea why or how. Can
anyone help find the updated content or at least explain how it could
have gotten lost?

Jason

[chris...@gmail.com]

On Aug 19, 6:49 am, jasondunham <jwdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The page I originally wrote was the content athttp://oldwiki.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Cust....
> In April I found it had been migrated tohttp://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/

> -->  "Custom Project Classifications"  (Please tell me there's a way
> to get a URL directly to a tiddler and I'm just too dumb to figure it
> out!!!)

There's a few ways, here's two:

* http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BCustom%20Project%20Classifications%5D%5D
* http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/Custom%20Project%20Classifications

> Fast-forward to today, when I was trying to point someone else to that
> information. Browsing the tiddlyspace page, that tiddler is gone,
> except in the Missing Tiddlers list.  I have no idea why or how.  Can
> anyone help find the updated content or at least explain how it could
> have gotten lost?

Can you give me a more narrow date range of when you made your edits?
With that I'll be able to check the log files and see if your changes
made it to the server properly in the first place and then what might
have happened after that. The logs go back a year or so, so it is
possible to look quite far back in time, but they are large enough
that if I can narrow the search that would be useful. Thanks.

[jasondunham]

The Custom Project Classifications tiddler that I stubbed out says it
was changed on 11 April 2011, so I probably edited the other one on
the same day or a couple days before at max.

Thanks!

On Aug 19, 1:27 am, "cd...@peermore.com" <chris.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 19, 6:49 am, jasondunham <jwdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The page I originally wrote was the content athttp://oldwiki.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MonkeyGTD/Customization_Guide/Cust....
> > In April I found it had been migrated tohttp://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/
> > -->  "Custom Project Classifications"  (Please tell me there's a way
> > to get a URL directly to a tiddler and I'm just too dumb to figure it
> > out!!!)
>
> There's a few ways, here's two:
>

> *http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BCustom%20Project%20Classifica...
> *http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/Custom%20Project%20Classifications

[chris...@gmail.com]

On Aug 19, 3:30 pm, jasondunham <jwdun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Custom Project Classifications tiddler that I stubbed out says it
> was changed on 11 April 2011, so I probably edited the other one on
> the same day or a couple days before at max.

It appears the "Adding%20another%20Project%20or%20Action%20Status"
tiddler was deleted at 02/Aug/2011:16:28:03 +0100 from within the
tiddlywiki. I'm able to make some guesses about the user who did it
and why but I can't be certain without some more significant digging,
so I wouldn't care to speculate beyond saying that it appears it was
an accident.

I will endeavor to dig up the content from a backup and place it into
the wiki.

This does highlight a concern we've had for some time but not
addressed: In the pseudo-public spaces like mgsd-docs and tiddlywiki
'delete' is too powerful: anybody with an account can do it. This is
probably not ideal. It works okay in the limited spaces where there
are only a few members.

Ideas on solutions?

[chris...@gmail.com]

On Aug 19, 3:54 pm, "cd...@peermore.com" <chris.d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will endeavor to dig up the content from a backup and place it into
> the wiki.

http://mgsd-docs.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BAdding%20another%20Project%20or%20Action%20Status%5D%5D

[jasondunham]

Thanks for the fix, Chris. I don't have any great ideas on making it harder to delete content.  maybe it could email a moderater when a topic is deleted or reduced in size by more than, say 50%.  Frequent backups are great too; it sounds like that's already going on.  I'm a believer in making things easy to change and easy to recover.

Jason

[jdunham]

Chris Dent restored the missing content for me.  Thanks, Chris!