TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

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@TiddlyTweeter

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May 25, 2017, 2:15:57 PM5/25/17
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I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.

The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on enabled state. This kind of icon ...

Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?

ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. Bland GREY, as is, for other pages ....

Just thoughts.

Best wishes
Josiah
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Conner Phillips

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May 25, 2017, 2:20:14 PM5/25/17
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I support this 100%. This didn't bite me in the rear, but I did loose a few items when just playing around with something. I can easily imagine how, as it is right now, go really south for somebody.

Birthe C

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May 25, 2017, 3:18:22 PM5/25/17
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I like that  the icon turn red, when I open the same TW in more than one tab. That happens.

Birthe


@TiddlyTweeter

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May 25, 2017, 3:27:21 PM5/25/17
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B, Good point I overlooked, J.

Ton Gerner

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May 25, 2017, 3:38:10 PM5/25/17
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May 25, 2017, 4:07:19 PM5/25/17
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Ciao Ton

You mean these mentioned in a post by you?

I was not aware. I quite like the idea of a cat's face :-)

Cat 1 - Saving, Green, Eyes open

Cat 2 - Not Saving, Blue, Eyes shut

Cat 3 - Not Saving & not a TW, Grey, Eyes shut

Cat 4 - Double Saving (i.e. One TW opened in more than one tab), Red, Eyes very wide in shock :-)

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.

Best wishes
Josiah

Ton Gerner wrote:
Did you see the new icons used in the new 2.0.2-prerelease build?

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Ton Gerner

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May 25, 2017, 4:16:31 PM5/25/17
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Hi Josiah,


You mean these mentioned in a post by you?

Yes
 
I have seen some discussion about the icons used; can't find it at the moment.

Is there a place to see what's happening on all this? I might comment. But not if its far on as the images you show will do the job well enough.

The 'official' place for Tiddlyfox issues: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/issues

Cheers,

Ton
 

Robert Edwards

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May 30, 2017, 9:45:29 PM5/30/17
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What got me was not knowing I had to look for a new icon, and that my saving had been silently disabled. So it's not a case of not noticing the color of the icon, it's noticing that there's an icon at all! It was only after I'd lost work that I realized that TF had been updated and that I had to take explicit action.

I will accept part blame; it did ask me to confirm leaving the page. In dGSD (TWC-based), I've gotten used to seeing the "leave page" confirmation pop-up every time I close the page, whether I have unsaved changes or not. (There's a setting that's supposed to only ask when there are unsaved changes but it often reverts back to "always ask." That's a different annoyance....) I this case I knew that I'd saved so closed the page. What I didn't know was that due to my not re-enabling saving in the new version of TF, my save had silently failed.

I love TW but this bit me hard and I'm a little angry about it.
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