What is #TiddlyWiki?

[TiddlyTweeter]

#TiddlyWiki is SO feature rich it is almost impossible to describe it. 

 "Wiki" in particular kinda obscures it is really a VERY sophisticated JavaScript application to dynamically, in real time, change HTML, CSS and content of the web page it IS.

How would you describe it?

[Eric Shulman]

Technically, TiddlyWiki is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-page_application.

However, describing TiddlyWiki is really a problem of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use%E2%80%93mention_distinction, an example of which is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddocks%27_Eyes in Lewis Carroll's "Through The Looking Glass", in which Alice and The White Knight have a conversation about the complicated terminology distinguishing between the song, what the song is called, the name of the song, and what the name of the song is called.

In the past, I've described it as a "Personal Portable Programmable Platform for People" (I like alliteration).  I've also described it by saying "Own it like a document, use it like a website",  and borrowing the Sirius Cybernetics marketing division's description of a robot from Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" : "Your Plastic Pal Who's Fun To Be With!"

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[Mat]

3 word description: "Hyperlinked post-it notes".

If there's a glimpse of interest, add "...that are also individually programmable".

If listener is salivating, add "...So each post-it can hold notes but also dynamic content extracted from all the other notes"

Another description: "...it's like Evernote or OneNote but customizable". (I'm guessing here. Never used those.)

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[Soren Bjornstad]

From the front page of Grok TiddlyWiki:

TiddlyWiki is a human-shaped tool for organizing information and taking notes. It stores and relates information in a non-linear but structured way, just like your brain, and it doesn't forget things.

[Ste]

Tiddlywiki is AWESOME. 

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[TW Tones]

I keep saying the "TiddlyWiki platform" you could run a band., business of side hustle on it, become a personal productivity wizard or build an app on it. You could just use it for a shopping list or a research program.

Tones

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 3:10:49 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

I keep saying the "TiddlyWiki platform" you could run a band., business of side hustle on it, become a personal productivity wizard or build an app on it. You could just use it for a shopping list or a research program.

As per Saturday Night Live on 1/10/1976:

"TiddlyWiki is a Floor Wax.... No! It's a Desert Topping!"

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/shimmer-floor-wax/n8625

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[Charlie Veniot]

Just because a tend to be overly wordy:  TiddlyWiki is a Hypertext Solutions Platform.

Heck, I often think of TiddlyWiki as a Rapid Application Development tool for TiddlyWiki solutions or prototyping applications that will eventually be built on other platforms.

[Mohamed Amin]

First of all, please excuse my English,

In Harry Potter World, there is a creature called "A Boggart" 

It's a "shapeshifter" that feels and knows the emotion of a person and transform itself to be his "Worst Nightmare"

For me, TW5 is something similar(in opposite way), it's a "Living creature" that  communicate/comminute with my thought/mind, it understand and feel my needs then transform himself to be my "Fantastic Dream" (most of the times :))

Sometimes it behave badly, sometimes I feel that it intend to make me look stupid/fool, sometimes I feel that I'll NEVER understand it, sometime we struggle/fight with each other, But in the end, I always don't have any option except "fell in love" with it. 

Note: (Sorry Jeremy you've lied to us) 

- Tiddlywiki is NOT a "Notebook" tool

- Tiddlywiki is NOT a "To Do List" tool

(just kidding)

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mohamed Amin wrote:

In Harry Potter World, there is a creature called "A Boggart" 

It's a "shapeshifter" that feels and knows the emotion of a person and transform itself 

I do like the "shape-shifter" analogy too myself and Boggarts are a good example of one type of shape-shifter.

There is always the worry, of course, that one may need help from 

... Morphaholics Anonymous.  :-)

Best wishes, TT

[TiddlyTweeter]

Eric Shulman wrote:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddocks%27_Eyes in Lewis Carroll's "Through The Looking Glass", in which Alice and The White Knight have a conversation about the complicated terminology distinguishing between the song, what the song is called, the name of the song, and what the name of the song is called.

Eric, Ha! Great fun! 

More seriously, the Haddocks Eyes problem is I think insightful on the difficulty of describing our animal.

Just a comment, TT

[Hans Wobbe]

Just a thought forking from Boggart and and the Shapeshifter reference to "transform": 

Perhaps the term TransFormer could be use for those procedures that significantly Transform a tiddler's appearance.  (e.g. applying a set of viewTemplates or other TransClusions and Stylings by merely tagging a tiddler?  Perhaps its time to re-visit CSS zenGarden for some inspiration.

[David Gifford]

A free, one-file cross-platform tool that can be used offline or online, for

a) capturing your content in chunks,

b) connecting, combining and organizing the chunks, and

c) retrieving, exporting, sharing and publishing your content,

all in an incredibly customizable user interface

and supported by a wide selection of plugin

and a friendly open source community.

Other description

An addictive tool,

that needs other tools and knowledge just to start saving changes and using it,

whose infinite customizability will cause you spend more time tweaking it than using it,

and whose fragmentary and incomprehensible documentation will leave you pounding your desk

and confusing things like tags, tag, tagging, untagged, list, listing, listed, list-before, list-after, list-behind, list-through,

filter:"[[ and filter="[[, ,

and $this$, <<this>>, \define this(this), [has:this[]], [get:this[]], [forget:this[]] and [all[current]this[]]

TiddlyWiki will leave you with a long trail of files strewn across your hard drive,

each containing tweaks you experimented with to design the 'perfect' system, better than the last,

and notes you will need later but can't find because of the sheer number of files you started but abandoned

because the next day someone announced a new plugin.

On Friday, May 7, 2021 at 7:05:10 AM UTC-5 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

[David Gifford]

I should add that for me, the second description is playfful and in no way nullifies the power of the first description...

[Ste]

@David

It's funny because it's true, and we know how much you put into the tiddlyverse.

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Dave,

Very good descriptions both of them. That is exactly so - and the reason I need a pause sometimes, to sort out my drives.

It is kind of comforting to read your post, I just thought I was messy......LOL.

A pause never last for long - too afraid of missing out.

Birthe