Link to top of called tiddler

[Jacques Turbé]

Hello,

(still new to TW5)

I put the text of plays on TW5.

One scene = one tiddler.

at the end of each scene is the link to the tiddler of the following scene :

► [[Sc VIII - TOINETTE as a Doctor, ARGAN, BÉRALDE.]]

Problem: 

the tiddler does not display the the  scene at starts, but (I believe) opens at the place where it was left the previous time, i.e. near bottom !

I thought, as in TwClassic, I would point to a slice at the head of next scene, but I read the philosophy (a little rigid) a slice is a tiddler.

• I don't know if there's goto top of tiddler macro ?
• if there is the equivalent of the hover plugin that I use every day in my classic wikis ?
• or any other  workaround that would solve my problem ?

Thanks for any help :)

[Mat]

If I understand you right, you want your tiddlers to open at top or perhaps above the current tiddler. You can try the settings found in Controlpanel > tab Settings > tab TiddlyWiki and scroll down to "Tiddler Opening Behaviour".

if there is the equivalent of the hover plugin that I use every day in my classic wikis ?

I don't understand if you're saying this is related to the first problem you describe. Regardless, what does "the hover plugin" achieve/do? (You can "hover" over anything so it is not a very descriptive name)

<:-)

[Jacques Turbé]

Thanks for your help Matt,

But maybe I was unclear:

When I click/tap the bottom link of current tiddler (current scene in my Roleplay instance) I do get the pointed tiddler (next scene) on display, but what is displayed is the bottom of the text so I have to manually scroll up to the beginning. 

That becomes painfull, especially on phone screens, for my fellows who are not aquainted with TW.

I don't find this TW5 behaviour to be right : 

linked tiddler ought to display its content from the beginning !

So I'm still with that discrepancy.

Fyi :

• I already unsuccessfully tried your opening behaviour suggestion, moreove'r I've set Zoom mode, that is a single tiddler on display at a time.
• TWClassic Hover plugin was to display floating buttons along display side, so to avoid to have to scroll up to menu bar for frequent commands. My floating buttons were : Go top of tiddler, display Home tiddler, create new tiddler, =/- font size on display.

So I'm still with my question :

► How to get the content of linked tiddler displayed from beginning of text (wanted) and not somewhere close to bottom (current) ?

;)°

 

[TonyM]

Jacques

As I remember the hover feature was basically to provide a popup menu. You could then use the default to specify your own buttons. So I think the feature you were talking about was jump, jump to the tiddler.

In TW5 have a look at the sidebar Open tab, click on an open tiddler and surely you already get the behaviour you are looking for ?

If not you may need to give a better explanation.

If this is similar then we can look at a on hover access method.

Regards

Tony

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Jacques,

If you set the opening behaviour of tiddlers to 'Open at the top of the story river' (Control palnel > Settings > Tiddler Opening Behaviour), you can use the following button - displayed at the bottom right - to go to the top of the story river.

Create a tiddler, tagged with $:/tags/PageTemplate, containing:

<div class="tgc-fixed-bottom">
<$button class="tc-btn-invisible tgc-button-color">
&#9650;
<$list variable='Target' filter='[list[$:/StoryList]first[]]'>
<$action-navigate $to=<<Target>>/>
</$list>
</$button>
</div>

<style>
.tgc-fixed-bottom {
     position: fixed;
     bottom: 10px;
     right: 10px;
     padding: 8px;
     background-color: white;
}
.tgc-button-color {
     color: red;
}
.tgc-button-color:hover {
     color: blue;
}
</style>

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Ton

[Jacques Turbé]

Thanks Tony and Ton,

It looks as if I've got to the end of my poor english wording :))

My problem is not getting to linked tiddler, 

nor where in story river is that titiddler, 

my problem is how content is displayed in linked tiddler. 

→ If content is longer than screen display, what appears on screen is not the beginning of tiddler content as I'd expect, but the last part of that content (where another link to next scene is).

I'll try to illustrate :

Calling tiddler :

SCENE VIII

aaa bbb ccc ... xxx yyy zzz ► SCENE IX

Suppose my screen would only be three lines high, 

if I tap SCENE IX, I'd expect that display :

SCENE IX

aaa bbb ccc

But, what I actually get is :

www xxx yyy zzz ► SCENE X

This behaviour occurs as well on phone as on desktop, in Chrome as well as on TiddlyDesktop ...

I hope I am now clear enough,.

I didn't want you to spoil your precious help time, for which I thank you !

Nevertheless, i'm still with my question :)

(thanks Ton for your button code, I'll keep it in case....)

[springer]

Jacques, I understood what you meant right away (that you click a tiddler link and find you're landing at the *bottom* of the destination tiddler), but this is unfamiliar behavior to me. My TW behaves as you expect, opening at the top of a tiddler, even if I recently was looking at the bottom of it. (And I'm not an expert at all, just another user here trying to learn how to improve my wiki.)

Could you explain whether you have any plugins or other modifications to the default TW? And, is this happening only on mobile devices, or on both phones and desktop?

-Springer

[Jacques Turbé]

Hurrah for your rightaway understanding, Springer : you've got it :)

My only plugin (aside of core TW5) is : 
→ $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror

I also kept from tongerner (for readonly uploads) :

$:/plugins/tongerner/ro/hide-sidebar-tabs
I use it along with $:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Toolbars/PageControls, 
$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Toolbars/ViewToolbar, and 

$:/core/ui/ControlPanel/Saving/TiddlySpot

Should I uprade to a fresh TW5 ?

Uninstalle CodeMirror ?

re-install the whole tongermer readonly plugin ?

► BTW, is there a way to memorize these upper four tiddlers as a one-click readonly button for my public uploads ?

Thanks for your time :)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jacques

Are using the "zoomin" storyview? The storyview determines how the main stack of tiddlers behaves. It is set in the Tools tab of the sidebar. The "zoomin" storyview is an attempt to provide an animated single tiddler view, but it suffers from several oddities such as this. The default "classic" storyview has more conventional behaviour.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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On 13 Jan 2020, at 15:44, Jacques Turbé <jacque...@gmail.com> wrote:



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[Jacques Turbé]

Hi Jeremy,

Here you come and settle the point !

Yes I was using Zoomin.

I just switched to pop, and it looks ok !

(but is less comfortable than Zoomin on phone screens when it leads in my instance to very long rivers !)

Nice to see some oddities are still to polish in some places ))

So, my point is closed for  now. Thanks to all.

Cheers !