Tiddlywiki Users Gathering / Conference?

[stevesuny]

About 18 months ago, in another thread, Dickon wrote:

"Conference?: This leads me to suggest that one way forward would be to think about that old fashioned idea of getting people together to share how they are using TS... I am not so interested in the technical development (though am in awe of you who do it!) but I would like to hear narratives of how other people are using their spaces and the various things that this-being-TS (rather than some other blogging space) allows them to do this.  I suppose I would suggest a small conference - get some people together who can talk about how they are using TS - why they are using TS and not something else out there. 

 I agree that this be a good idea. I don't know if it should be TW5 or Classic, or if it matters. I've not made the leap to TW5 (I'm a tiddlyspace user), so I think I'm partial to TW Classic, but I could be convinced otherwise.

I imagine a small group of users, perhaps gathered digitally, but ideally face-to-face, maybe 10-15 attendees, to share what we've been doing. I've been using tiddly* (mostly, tiddlyspace) as a platform to support teaching & learning (the "SUNYIT users" in tiddlyspace), and would love to share in understanding what others are doing. Forcing ourselves to gather our findings in a presentation space might enable us to learn from each other. And this moment in time (especially with the uncertainty in the tiddlyspace world) might be opportune.

Anyone interested? If I get 3-4 responses here, I'll initiate a broader discussion when we can start talking about timing and location. One motivating factor for me: a looming deadline for small-grant submission (May 15) that I'd hope to use to fund my participation & travel.

//steve.
Steve Schneider
st...@sunyit.edu
SUNY Institute of Technology

[Handoko Suwono]

> Anyone interested? If I get 3-4 responses here, I'll initiate a
> broader discussion when we can start talking about timing and
> location.

I am interested. I have started using TW back in 2008 and been promoting TW-TS in many conferences. Most recently in FOSS Asia 2014 in Phnom Penh, previously 2012 in Siem Reap, and 2010 in Ho Chi Minh city. My intro on TW was then in 2009 in Manila.

Though I may not be able to attend since I am away in Asia, I am interested to hear more. So I am copying to TS list which is less crowded than in TW list.

Handoko -
astroiseur.tiddlyspace.com

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Steve, Handoko,

> Anyone interested? 

Very much so. A face to face meeting would be terrific if it could be arranged - I live in Oxford, which is a popular venue for these kinds of conferences :)

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[Chris Dent]

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 2:53:43 PM UTC+1, stevesuny wrote:

Anyone interested? If I get 3-4 responses here, I'll initiate a broader discussion when we can start talking about timing and location. One motivating factor for me: a looming deadline for small-grant submission (May 15) that I'd hope to use to fund my participation & travel.

I'd be interested but like many I suspect that travel and scheduling could be an issue.

I do, however, think that for this sort of thing face to face has some advantages. Basically if the point is to have voiced conversations and interactions, then in person wins over video etc. 

[John Kerr]

I'd be interested. Could probably host at University of Toronto where I work.

John Kerr

[Dickon Bevington]

Count me in - Oxford a good venue, Cambridge even better!

Dickon

[Handoko Suwono]

I think a conference meet-up is a chance to invite other people too,
outside current users within the lists. Formerly there had been
meetups between users as in London:

http://www.osmosoft.com/#[[TiddlyWiki%20anniversary%20interview]]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philliecasablanca/2038367812/

and in Paris on August, 2007.
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiFR/browse_thread/thread/c204bc571d58629f/fa0ef04a1459d045#fa0ef04a1459d045

Handoko -
http://datacom.co.id/tiddly_tutor.html

[stevesuny]

Reviving an old thread:

I've been asked to submit budget requests for the 2015-2016 academic year (beginning September 1, 2015) to my University.

So: I'm going to request funds to travel to the "Tiddlywiki as Hypertext" conference, to be held in Amsterdam, UK (Oxford or Cambridge) or Toronto in March/April/May 2016.


A true bureaucratic solution: request the funding first, create the conference next :) I'll volunteer to work on the conference program and organize some sort of review process. Hopefully  someone here will volunteer to be chair of the "host committee" to organize the venue and on-the-ground details


A quick, off-the-cuff description of the conference theme, obviously to be shaped by the participants: 

>Tiddlywiki can be envisioned and described within the broad vison of "hypertext" imagined by pioneers Vannevar Bush, Ted Nelson and Doug Englebart.* This conference will bring together users and developers within the Tiddlywiki ecosystem to consider, demonstrate and document  the relationship between the Bush/Nelson/Englebart vision, and the Tiddlywiki (TW5) community's implementation, practices and techniques. Participants will include users, developers, scholars and students. We anticipate about 15-25 attendees and participants.

* Bush, As we may think. Nelson, Literary Machines. Engelbart, Mother of all demos

Anyone interested?

//steve.

[Handoko Suwono]

I think a conference should expect more than a hundred attendants. I
did participate in many larger conferences, camps, tech events etc
though quantity doesn't mean quality. So a smaller event attendees
would mean a meet-up and had been held several times. So far I've been
pushing TW to be included as a subject in larger tech events.*) If
only anyone would also be interested to join.

>Participants will include users, developers, scholars and students. We anticipate about 15-25 attendees and participants.

However, I like the idea Steve.

Handoko -

*)
FOSSOGRAPHY, Phnom Penh in November 2015
FOSSAsia 2015, Singapore and coming in March 2016
RightsCon, Manila in March 2015 (done)

[Alex Hough]

Steve, 

I think this is a great idea. It will help frame TiddlyWiki as a serious hypertext tool.  I wrote a paper in which TiddlyWiki featured, it was for a place management conference. I proposed a design for a tool based on TiddlyWiki and some theory from cybernetics.

I wonder of there could be some collaboration and learning resulting in the production of papers

Best wishes 

Alex

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[Mat]

I would definitely want to come - and it's not unrealistic that I might make it for any of the places you mention even if the Europe alternatives are much easier.

I wonder how many tiddlers you're allowed to check in on a flight.

<:-)

[stevesuny]

I'm also interested in the two alternatives suggested and pursuing all three (small meet-up in Europe, large conference with 100 people, or offer a panel to an established conference) simultaneously.

For academic conferences, we might consider Association of Internet Researchers (fall 2016, proposals due usually in February) and Hypertext 2016 (fall 2016, proposals usually due in March).  Locations have not been announced yet. I'll volunteer to keep track of these, and will post here once the call for papers is issued.

//steve.

On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-4, stevesuny wrote:

[stevesuny]

Alex, just parsing old threads here:

On Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 11:48:09 PM UTC-4, AlexHough wrote:

Steve, 

I think this is a great idea. It will help frame TiddlyWiki as a serious hypertext tool.  I wrote a paper in which TiddlyWiki featured, it was for a place management conference. I proposed a design for a tool based on TiddlyWiki and some theory from cybernetics.

Could you share a link? I'm trying to build a repository of all papers referencing TW (and yours would be the 2nd. The first is 

http://www.vnseameo.org/InternationalConference2011/CD/Full%20Papers/English/Peter_McDowell.doc 

Any others out there?

 

I wonder of there could be some collaboration and learning resulting in the production of papers

Absolutely! I'm focused these days on scholarly / academic / teaching approach to hypertext using TW as a teaching / learning platform...

//steve.

[Alex Hough]

Hi Steve,

My paper is attached. 

If was presented at this year's place management conference [1], its not published in a journal

Alex

[1] http://www.placemanagement2015.pl/

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[Steve Schneider]

Thanks! I'll send you a link to our repository (as soon as we build it). 

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