Tiddloid or TiddloidLite instalation

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TW Tones

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May 6, 2021, 11:27:44 PM5/6/21
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Folks,

I change phones some time ago, and today returned to reinstall a version of tiddloid on my android phone.

The installation was not clear but now I remember its not in the store and you have to download the apk file. I have visited the github site but the apk file is listed but reported missing. You have to do this on your android device.

There is a barcode but it opens pages with a log or non english asian script, and doe not help me.

I believe we need to 
  • Allow apk's form other sources,
  • Download and open apk which should then install
any help appreciated
Tones


scot

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May 7, 2021, 1:22:30 PM5/7/21
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Hi Tones



Download the zip file required.
Open from download directory on phone allowing install from other sources (under security-unknown source installations)
Scot

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May 7, 2021, 3:05:18 PM5/7/21
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Can someone work on it and publish this in app store if it is open source and can be enhanced?

this good one is lying somewhere in internet unnoticed or unmanaged...

Tiddloid..

Only one app is available for tiddly wiki for mobile...Not sure why no one is interested in developing many for tiddly wiki

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Mark S.

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May 7, 2021, 3:48:37 PM5/7/21
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Also quinoid, with similar installation issues:


There isn't a lot of "reward" in Android development. You do a lot of work, and then only a handful of people seem to use it. Google keeps changing their API, but not updating their documentation. You learn one good way to do something, and then Google takes the method away. The whole structure of programs is confusing and frustrating. And then there is the problem of supporting so many versions and devices. My understanding is that it is much easier to program for Apple products. 

TW Tones

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May 7, 2021, 5:53:56 PM5/7/21
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I would love these apps published, but they are wiki managers, where the power will be is when we can load out own wiki in, and ony it and publish wikis as apps to the world, then there will be many based on tiddlywiki,

I am happy to pay for tiddloid/quinoid but how many sales?

Tones

TW Tones

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May 7, 2021, 5:54:30 PM5/7/21
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Thanks Scot, will try again today.

Mark S.

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May 7, 2021, 11:55:47 PM5/7/21
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The old andtidwiki came in a free and a "donation" version. There appear to have been very few "sales" of the donation version.

I would love these apps published, but they are wiki managers, where the power will be is when we can load out own wiki in, and ony it and publish wikis as apps to the world, then there will be many based on tiddlywiki,


It would have to be a kit, or a service. Each app has pieces of identification that need to be baked into it in order to be accepted by google. So you would have to put add your TW file as a resource, add the identifying pieces of information, and compile. Oh, and it really helps if you have an actual website because part of the identification looks like a web site url backwards (e.g. com.myhappysite.twjones) .  If you browse your application data you can see that each app is in a directory with that reversed notation. Obviously you can't use someone else's site for your project. I've never gone through the full process, but there may also be a registration fee involved.
 

TiddlyTweeter

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May 8, 2021, 1:39:18 AM5/8/21
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Mark S. wrote:
Also quinoid, with similar installation issues:


There isn't a lot of "reward" in Android development. You do a lot of work, and then only a handful of people seem to use it. Google keeps changing their API

FYI, I'm still using Quinoid. I think it is very good. No issues so far. 

The mechanism to be able to have a JSON file of sites is actually a real benefit for my use cases.

I often want to ask you to think about a method that could allow me to add that file, re-.defined by me, so that I could provide an apk address to my users knowing they will get an app that works well on Anroid and with the sites available easily they are needing.

Why did I not ask? For all the reasons you list. I can clearly seen that programming for Android is something of a PITA. And asking for more seems like just too much.

Just a comment
TT

Hubert

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May 8, 2021, 5:53:30 AM5/8/21
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Hi Tony/Tones,

I'm not sure if you still need help with Tiddloid.

Tiddloid Lite is better suited for the latest Android versions (8+). You can download the apk file directly from its github repository, no need to compile anything:


Click on Assets and download the apk to your phone.

Open the apk with a file manager. Android will prompt you to enable installation from unknown sources (unless you've previously enabled that).

That's it.

Donmor was adding some upgrades to the app recently but the latest version available on github is still from late 2019.

That said, it works perfectly fine and I'm using it all the time — my most used Android app actually ;)

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Hubert
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