TW5 Plugins

[Josh]

Hi All,

I read this great post https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/plugins$20tw5/tiddlywiki/w8w74S8rums/KjN32a8VOgUJ

However I am still confused about how to install a plugin in TW5, and if the plugins I am thinking of will even work with the new architecture.

I lost the tiddlywiki I use at work today (some file on my HDD took up the entire HDD so TW couldn't save and it became corrupted 0 bytes).

I have decided I need a better backup solution. I was confused by how TW Classic named it's backups, ( I could never tell which was the most recent, and had the most updated information). It named them with so many numbers I couldn't decipher them into a date and time such as YYYY-MM-DD HHMM.

After my loss (my own fault) I have some questions.

1. How do you install plugins in TW5?
   
   
2. Tagging a tiddler with a date and or time, or is this information better kept in a field? Eventually I would like to be able to create a task from a template, and the task will have the attributes:
1. date created
2. date finished (at which point it will be tagged done in the way that TW5 already accomplishes this
3. calculate total time to complete (This way I can work out which were my major pieces of work or achievements for the year
4. or maybe be able to organise some tasks as projects and other tasks as sub tasks tasks of projects or things I did to complete a larger piece of work or project. The projects tiddler would have a list of all projects, using the below SortableGridPlugin you could see the attributes of the project and sort by them. And when you open the project by clicking its title it shows all the sub tasks that were completed to finish the project.
   
   This all hinges on the fact I learn some Javascript css etc. This is a pipedream a vision.
   
   
3. Currently clicking a tiddler link expands and shows the contents of that tiddler. Using the internal version of tiddlywiki5 http://tw5gray.tiddlyspot.com/ the tags also expand to show the titles of all tiddlers with that tag. Is there a way of expanding only all tiddlers within the current tiddler, so you could essentially just scroll down to read everything rather than click on each tiddler link in turn and close it. The way it functions at the moment I find myself wanting to open multiple tiddlers grouped inside another tiddler since they are usually related in this way. But each time I click one I am directed to the top. The tiddler I clicked on opens at the top, and to get to the others tiddlers I have to scroll down (repeating this process for each tiddler I want to open).
   
   Examples of this include: wanting to open all tiddlers tagged with XYZ or all the tiddlers in for example the getting started tiddler. Is this at all possible?
   
   
4. Is there a backup plugin in TW5 which accomplishes what the 
1. BackupOptionsPlugin from http://rumkin.com/tools/tiddlywiki/ does? 
1. Limit your backups to one per day, one per minute etc 
2. Names your backups in a custom-defined format. YYYY-MM-DD HHMM.
   
   
2. SortableGridPlugin - from http://rumkin.com/tools/tiddlywiki/ - Take any table and make it sortable.
1. I want this so I can flick between sort by date created and date created in reverse [tag[task]!tag[done]!sort[created]] from https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/6htGVb3W5Uk

Thanks All, 

Regards, 

Josh.

[PMario]

On Monday, November 18, 2013 9:05:04 AM UTC+1, Josh wrote:

I read this great post https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/plugins$20tw5/tiddlywiki/w8w74S8rums/KjN32a8VOgUJ

However I am still confused about how to install a plugin in TW5, and if the plugins I am thinking of will even work with the new architecture.

At the moment, the easiest way is to open 2 TWs in 2 windows and drag and drop plugins from one TW to the other.

 I lost the tiddlywiki I use at work today (some file on my HDD took up the entire HDD so TW couldn't save and it became corrupted 0 bytes).

ohh, bad luck.
 

After my loss (my own fault) I have some questions.

1. How do you install plugins in TW5?
   

see above

There are no "BackupOptionsPlugin" and "SortableGridPlugin" atm.

IMO a sortable grid could be done as a standard TW5 plugin.

Handling the backups in a better way for FireFox the TiddlyFox addOn would need to be modified. Browser vendors block direct file access that we need to achieve our goals, due to security concerns.

-mario

[Josh]

Thanks Mario,

Looking forward to more plugins for TW5

[Josh]

Can you do backups at all in TW5 if so, how?

[Josh]

Mario,

To drag a plugin as you described do we drag the name of just one shaddow tiddler in More> Shadow > , as I thought some plugins required multiple tiddlers?

[Jeremy Ruston]

In TW5, plugins are kind of like a zip file: a bundle of separate tiddlers packaged together into one lump for ease of movement. So all plugins should be self contained, and therefore copyable in a single action.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Josh <yoshi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mario,

To drag a plugin as you described do we drag the name of just one shaddow tiddler in More> Shadow > , as I thought some plugins required multiple tiddlers?

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