No-Brainer Notes TiddlyWiki (for Firefox) - new free note-taking adaptation

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Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Sep 20, 2008, 12:52:05 PM9/20/08
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I sometimes wish I would stop getting more and more ideas for using
and reconfiguring TiddlyWiki. I told myself a year ago that I would
stop creating new TiddlyWiki stuff and just back to data entry on the
TWs I use to share New Testament notes for my students.

But yesterday afternoon I was thinking about two things at once:

1. How I could come up with a better note-taking TW for my students,
who are Spanish-speaking and most of whom feel bewildered by
TiddlyWiki's multiple open tiddlers, and

2. How I could make TW's MainMenu look more like Evernote.

I had been working on tagglytagging and newhereplugin for another
project, and was beginning to appreciate Simon's creations a bit more.
I had also run across Simon's old sitemapmacro yesterday. Suddenly it
dawned on me how to combine all this into a super-simple note-taking
tool, one that improves upon my old My Notes TW in terms of organizing
notes into topics.

So here it is. It only works in Firefox at the moment as far as I know
(I'm going to wait to see what the developers do about cookies and
saving before I try to make it compatible with IE and other browsers).
Known issues:
1. The history macro doesn't work in IE.
2. Google Chrome renders the word 'search' above the search window
rather than next to it, and when the file opens in Chrome, the right
1/3 is blank until you click on something.
3. Won't let you save in IE or Chrome.

Here's the link: http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.html.
This url will not be its home when I feel like it's finished/
compatible, but I will still leave it there for those of you who
bookmark it.

I would love your feedback after you play with it for a bit.

Dave


Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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my students,
> who are Spanish-speaking and most of whom feel bewildered by
> TiddlyWiki's multiple open tiddlers,

No relationship between those two facts are intended...

I just want something very simple *and* in Spanish.

Dave

Rafiki Cai

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Dave:

a) I found a 404 when using the link
you offered.

Not Found

The requested URL /experiments/nobrainernotes.html. was not found on this server.


b) I noticed your reference to MainMenu in your email.
I'm presuming that your improvement will offered a tab
menu.

If it does, can you figure out how to allow for determining which tab the TW
will open on (the very first time)- for new viewers.

I'm using the MainMenu over at http://www.obamanotes.com,
and would like to have the TW open on the second tab for all
viewers.

-------

Thanks,
RC

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Rafiki

The 404 may have been that you accessed the page right when I was
uploading? The link works fine for me, accessing via Internet.

I don't use tabbed folders in this file. Not sure how you do that -
try posting the question in its own thread for more likelihood of
getting it answered.

Blessings,

Dave

Amzg

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Sep 20, 2008, 6:07:57 PM9/20/08
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On Sep 20, 6:52 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
<giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would love your feedback after you play with it for a bit.
>
> Dave

I like this Dave - in deed a great simplification over your previous
"note books" and definitely the cleanest TW for pure notetaking I've
seen so far. Should appeal to anyone who wishes to use TW as a pure
note taking tool and particularly newbies.

Here are some spontaneus thoughts after using it for a few minutes;

1) Would be great if topic menu was automatically updated. (I believe
it should be possible as Mr.S Baird has this in mGTD) - particularly
as the whole topics menu is closed up upon reloading it.
(Maybe the menu could be tagglytagging based? That'd make it
automatically updated, no?)

2) One must keep the default tag (e.g "Note") for it to be classed
correctly - no surprise here of course, but what I'm thinking is that
maybe there is a way to keep such required tags separated from user
created tags. Either two separate tag fields or maybe keeping the
default tags in the background somehow.

3) would be great if, instead of having to open a master topic to
click "new here", you could do it straight from the topic menu.
(Again, in mGTD you have a + sign next to various items so to create a
sub-item). It could be just between the name of the topic and the
slider arrow.

4) ...and when actually having a topic open, there could similarly be
a "new here" command just next to the topic title or somewhere
separated from the somewhat confusing tiddler toolbar.
Also - and this I think should actually apply to core TW, but i
realize it may be controversial - I think the edit command should be
in, or just above, the text field. Just more intuitive, and it also
places the mouse in the relevant area.

5) I think it is a bit confusing - on the one hand the toolbar
contains a few crucial commands, but on the other hand it is
obscuredly grayed out and up in the right corner. Also, considering
the one-page-mode, I think it would declutter to remove the "close
others" command as there is little need for it.

6) Would be preferable to only list "user created tags" in the drop
down tags-list.

7) Would prefer to have the drop down tags as close to the tags field
as possible, i.e in the beginning of the text rather than at the end
of it. Or, even better, just before - i.e to the left of - the tags
field.

8) The search results are very spread out, taking up lots of real
estate.


Thanks!


/Mat

Amzg

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Also, I miss a quick delete command.

/Mat

On Sep 21, 12:07 am, Amzg <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 6:52 pm, "Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/"

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Thanks Amzg

Some of your comments are beyond what I know how to do (hiding non-
user tags, MGTD + signs),
some I'd have to look up (quick delete command)
but others (moving the drop down tags, shrinking the search results,
removing the close others) I can tackle in the morning.

Other thoughts:

The gray toolbar to the right of the tiddler I simply inherited the
styles from MonkeyPirate without modifying them. I'll play with it and
see if I want to adjust the color. I don't plan on moving it, though.
TW users are already accustoned to it being there. No sense in
changing everything.

I haven't gone through to add excludeLists tags. That should take care
of #6, I think. I plan to do that eventually.

I would like to eliminate the 'topics' level altogether but am not
sure how. I tried tagglytags as you said, but I didn't see that it
gives you the sliders, and also it puts all the little gray menus
above the index. I think that one is beyond me, unless I figure out a
way to use the TagsTreePlugin. But I found the documentation lacking
on that, and I don't like the big, wide style of that plugiin and
don't know how to make it look like this one, which I prefer. If
someone likes this and wants to try to do the same using
TagsTreePlugin with different CSS rules, I'd love to see how it's
done. But I really want it to look pretty much like this.

I disagree about having a new here button in the mainmenu. I think
that real estate needs to be for the index. The topmenu is for tiddler
creation and navigation.

Keep the ideas coming. They are good ones.

Dave

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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File updated with Amzg (amazing?) changes:

1. toolbar is darker and more readable - medium blue to match the
color scheme.
2. The needless 'close others' is gone and deleteTiddlers is
accessible in view mode too.
3. Added excludeLists tag to 44 tiddlers and deleted two needless non-
user tags.

Things I didn't change but looked at:

1. Amzg said the search results are spread out and take up real
estate. Since this TW is in single page mode, I'm assuming you don't
mean it hogs the whole viewing area, but that the actual results start
too low on the tiddler. I agree it is annoying. Basically, the tag box
is the culprit there, lowering the actual results below it. I tend to
delete tag boxes via viewtemplate in other projects, but for this one
I felt it best to have navigational options available. So I'm not sure
what else can be done about that. Any ideas, anyone?

2. Moving the taqs dropdown: since by selecting a tag from the
dropdown list automatically adds the tiddler, I think it's irrelevant
how close it is to the actual tags window. Its placement is more about
where it fits logically in the instructions. But I did move it a
little to the left for you.

I am limited in that I'm not a developer, and don't know much of any
code except what I can glean off of Hot Dog's CSS page or by examining
existing code and making educated guesses. That's why I am always
pestering Fred, Simon and Eric among others for help here whenever I
get what I think is a worthwhile idea. Hopefully the payoff is worth
it, making TiddlyWiki more accessible to new and non-techie users free
of charge.

Thanks for the suggestions, and keep em coming

Dave

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Sep 21, 2008, 12:47:07 AM9/21/08
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since by selecting a tag from the
> dropdown list automatically adds the tiddler,

should read: automatically adds the tag

Dave

Cordell

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Sep 21, 2008, 8:15:30 PM9/21/08
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If I use this TW for all of my notes what kind of problems might I run
into when I try to export my notes into a different TW? Will my menu
remain intact? What data might be lost?



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wolfgang

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Hi Cordell,

you can export all tiddler's content just as you typed them in any
other TiddlyWiki, since tiddlers are stored separate from the actual
core code of a TiddlyWiki. It is much care taken that an improvement
of the core doesn't break existing things, as for example existing
TiddlyWiki text formating. But even then you would get plugins for
backward compatibility.

Same goes for the menu, which in Dave's new TiddlyWiki is based on
tags and rendered through SiteMapMacro. Even if you wouldn't use
SiteMapMacro in an exported to TiddlyWiki at all - basically you can
access the same in the right hand sidebar tags tabs. And there are
many more sophisticated plugins to create menus out of tags, as for
example the already mentioned TagTreePlugin does.

hope that helps,

W.

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Hey you techies out there,

1. Is there a way to change the sliders of my No-Brainer Notes so that
they will automatically refresh?

2. Is there a way to keep the tag box in a tiddler from pushing down
the tiddler's content such as search results?

3. Is there a way to make the second level in the mainmenu sliders
flush left so that instead of

TOPICS
Master topic
Subtopic

I get

TOPICS
Master topic
Subtopic

4. Or, alternatively, remove the TOPICS level of the slider
altogether?

I am really excited about how simple the No-Brainer Notes idea is -
for myself, for my students, and potentially for others, but would
like to make it simpler. And I've reached my technical limits (not
hard to do). So I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas.

Thanks in advance,

Dave

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Sep 22, 2008, 9:42:51 AM9/22/08
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For example, maybe there is a way to click a button that opens a popup
where you add your master topic and click done, then it automatically
adds what you typed in so that <<siteMap XXX . sliders>> becomes
<<siteMap Maureen Biology . sliders>> or whatever, and gets added to
the MainMenu tiddler in alphabetical order? Don't know if that's even
possible, but then I've been surprised in the past...

Dave

Simon Baird

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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ <gif...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey you techies out there,

1. Is there a way to change the sliders of my No-Brainer Notes so that
they will automatically refresh?

Not certain but you could try this:
<div id='mainMenu' refresh='content' force='true' tiddler='MainMenu'></div>



--
simon...@gmail.com

Morris Gray

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> 2. Google Chrome renders the word 'search' above the search window
> rather than next to it, and when the file opens in Chrome, the right
> 1/3 is blank until you click on something.

Custom CSS around search renders search on the same line.

.nowrap { white-space:nowrap;}

I did not experience the 1/3 blank problem

Jeremey claims you can save with TiddlySaver java applet.

http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_thread/thread/f2c68babf9795fa

You can download the latest nightly from
Google:

http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/

You'll also need the latest Java beta from Sun:

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea/6u10/6u10RC.jsp

You should probably check the nightly builds.
My Chrome version: Official Build 2200
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.30 Safari/525.13

Morris Gray
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On Sep 21, 2:52 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Sep 22, 2008, 10:53:23 AM9/22/08
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Thanks Simon and Morris

CSS worked for Chrome.

Simon I tried your idea in PageTemplate but it didn´t work. Was I
supposed to put it somewhere else? Or is it because it is the slider,
not the tiddler, being refreshed?

Dave

Tony

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Sep 23, 2008, 9:57:56 AM9/23/08
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Hi I am a Tiddly noob,

Dave if I download this and use it, do I just download the next
version and will it be transparent, ie just an update? I am not sure
if tiddles are kept with the JS code. Or if a download allows me to
update the core code and keep the text. I am guessing not, but I am
not sure. Also if that is the case is there a standard export/import
mechanism for handle said updates.

Also if I use some of the other tiddly skins, will that break this. I
am not a CSS man, so I like to use other people creative endevours
they are much more pleasing on the eye than mine.

I think that is enough also...s for now. Thank you for a fun project.

Tony


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Eric Weir

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wolfgang wrote:
> Same goes for the menu, which in Dave's new TiddlyWiki is based on
> tags and rendered through SiteMapMacro. Even if you wouldn't use
> SiteMapMacro in an exported to TiddlyWiki at all - basically you can
> access the same in the right hand sidebar tags tabs. And there are
> many more sophisticated plugins to create menus out of tags, as for
> example the already mentioned TagTreePlugin does.
>
Curious. Is SiteMapMacro how Dave gets the hierarchical list of topics
on the left side of the page? And is it dependent on TagTreePlugin?

Is there a plugin that allows you to create a hierarchical list of
tiddlers that's not based on tags or tiddler titles, i.e., so tiddlers
-- or maybe tags -- can be put wherever you want regardless of the
content of tags or titles.

Thanks,
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

wolfgang

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> Curious. Is SiteMapMacro how Dave gets the hierarchical list of topics
> on the left side of the page? And is it dependent on TagTreePlugin?
>

Dave uses SiteMapMacro for the hierarchical list which is not
dependent on TagTreePlugin. How could it be dependent on it, if
TagTreePlugin isn't even installed there?

> Is there a plugin that allows you to create a hierarchical list of
> tiddlers that's not based on tags or tiddler titles, i.e., so tiddlers
> -- or maybe tags -- can be put wherever you want regardless of the
> content of tags or titles.

On what else, if not tiddler titles or tags, would you like to base
the hierarchy?

W.

wolfgang

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Welcome Tony,

> Dave if I download this and use it, do I just download the next
> version and will it be transparent, ie just an update? I am not sure
> if tiddles are kept with the JS code. Or if a download allows me to
> update the core code and keep the text. I am guessing not, but I am
> not sure. Also if that is the case is there a standard export/import
> mechanism for handle said updates.

Take a look at the backstage area you can access in the far upper
right corner of a TiddlyWiki, there you'll find standard mechanisms
for import and updates.

The remaining question I already answered in my reply to Cordell, the
sixth post above yours.

Regards,

W.

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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> > Dave if I download this and use it, do I just download the next
> > version and will it be transparent, ie just an update?

Tony, this TW is an experiment at this point. I am hoping I can get
help with the qs I posted earlier in this thread before I make it
truly public - i.e, before I make it accessible from the main pages of
my site http://www.giffmex.org. I don't know whether anyone will come
up with a way to do the above things. However I promise that if the
changes I make are substantial I will include instructions on how to
update it. The tags you put shouldn't need to change. It would just be
a matter of re-importing the mainmenu and a couple plugins, and maybe
a couple extra tiddlers. So in other words, feel free to start taking
notes with No-Brainer Notes and I will help you get it updated if and
when the time comes.

Dave

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Hello again everyone!

I made a major advance in my quest to make No-Brainer Notes more
enjoyable and simple. The mainmenu before showed you 'Topics' and you
had to click on that to see your topics. Not any more. It now shows a
list of your master topics. The annoying 'topics' level has been
eliminated.

For those of you who haven't checked it out, see
http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.html

For those of you who already started using NBN and want to upgrade
(hopefully only Cordell and a couple others of you), just import the
following tiddlers from
http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.html and hit reload
or refresh:

Advanced customization
Basic customization
EditTemplate
Instructions
MainMenu
SliderFrame
StyleSheet
TopicNote
TopMenu

These should not affect your current tags or content in any way.

Then the hard part: you will need to add a sitemap slider to any of
your current master topics tiddlers (i.e., the topics you want to
access from the topic index). You can see the sitemap slider in
SliderFrame. For each master topic tiddler, paste the slider macro
ABOVE any text you added to the tiddler, then replace XXX with the
title of the tiddler. Save the tiddlers and hit refresh and you should
see your master topics displayed in the index.

I hope you like the change and I hope the above isn't too much work
for you. Blessings,

Dave

Morris Gray

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Great no-brainer improvement Dave.

I downloaded your last updated masterpiece and set about using it. I
used it to document itself i.e. I put the Instructions in as a topic
and sub-topics. And did another topic as well. It is really easy to
use so you've achieved what you set out to do - it's great!

Of course I tweaked it a tiny bit to suit myself. I added
TaggerPlugin because I thought it would be handy as I played around
with tags a bit (but there is a problem) also my own preferred top
menu but that's about all.

There are some unresolved things I put in a tiddler for you to see.

See my trial here: http://twnotes.tiddlyspot.com/

I love it and will be using it a lot.

P.S. There is a cleaner way to use nested custom CSS
You used {{purple{{{nowrap{
You can use just{{purple nowrap{

Morris



On Sep 24, 1:33 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
<giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello again everyone!
>
> I made a major advance in my quest to make No-Brainer Notes more
> enjoyable and simple. The mainmenu before showed you 'Topics' and you
> had to click on that to see your topics. Not any more. It now shows a
> list of your master topics. The annoying 'topics' level has been
> eliminated.
>
> For those of you who haven't checked it out, seehttp://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.html
>
> For those of you who already started using NBN and want to upgrade
> (hopefully only Cordell and a couple others of you), just import the
> following tiddlers fromhttp://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.htmland hit reload

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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I look forward to seeing your suggestions. But it seems dreamhost is
down this morning, and with it tiddlyspot and my own site.

Dave

On Sep 24, 7:25 am, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> Great no-brainer improvement Dave.
>
> I downloaded your last updated masterpiece and set about using it. I
> used it to document itself i.e. I put the Instructions in as a topic
> and sub-topics.  And did another topic as well.  It is really easy to
> use so you've achieved what you set out to do - it's great!
>
> Of course I tweaked it a tiny bit to suit myself.  I added
> TaggerPlugin because I thought it would be handy as I played around
> with tags a bit (but there is a problem) also my own preferred top
> menu but that's about all.
>
> There are some unresolved things I put in a tiddler for you to see.
>
> See my trial here:http://twnotes.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> I love it and will be using it a lot.
>
> P.S. There is a cleaner way to use nested custom CSS
> You used {{purple{{{nowrap{
> You can use just{{purple nowrap{
>
> Morris
>
> On Sep 24, 1:33 pm, "Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/"
>
> <giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello again everyone!
>
> > I made a major advance in my quest to make No-Brainer Notes more
> > enjoyable and simple. The mainmenu before showed you 'Topics' and you
> > had to click on that to see your topics. Not any more. It now shows a
> > list of your master topics. The annoying 'topics' level has been
> > eliminated.
>
> > For those of you who haven't checked it out, seehttp://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.html
>
> > For those of you who already started using NBN and want to upgrade
> > (hopefully only Cordell and a couple others of you), just import the
> > following tiddlers fromhttp://www.giffmex.org/experiments/nobrainernotes.htmlandhit reload

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Morris

One extra change that I made was to change the color in the NoteNote
and TopicNote tiddlers to #5566ff. Do that and then try creating a new
note or master topic and see if you like the color change. I can't
upload this change until my site gets back online.

Dave

Eric Weir

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On 9/23/2008 wolfgang wrote:

> Dave uses SiteMapMacro for the hierarchical list which is not
> dependent on TagTreePlugin. How could it be dependent on it, if
> TagTreePlugin isn't even installed there?

I didn't know that it wasn't. Didn't have a copy. Didn't check. The
question was stimulated by your having mentioned them in the same context.

> On what else, if not tiddler titles or tags, would you like to base
> the hierarchy?

Well, it could be lots of things. Whim would be one. But primarily my
own sense of the structure of what I'm thinking/writing about as it
emerges in the creation, tagging, tweaking of tiddlers. I'd like to be
able to drag-and-drop tiddlers, and any subtiddlers they may have, to
locations that make sense to me. I don't want TW to decide where they go
on the basis of the characters in tags or titles.

Regards,

Eric Weir

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I forgot to ask: Where can I get TagTreePlugin?

Thanks,

Morris Gray

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Sep 24, 2008, 7:05:31 PM9/24/08
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I made the colour change you suggested Dave and it's much better. By
the way that is a very good not-in-your-face colour for subdued text.
I did however take the liberty to tidy up the TopicNote and NoteNote
to make it more readable at least for me. I also added the tag
chooser at the bottom of the main text so to have tag choosing for
standard new tiddler and journal.

Updated TW Notes here: http://twnotes.tiddlyspot.com/

Morris


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Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Morris

Nice adaptation - I especially liked the plagiarism notes in a file
that has been copied and adapted without acknwledgement. Just kidding!

My favorite part, already implemented in NBN, is having the refresh
button be right next to the 'Topic index' title. I swiped that idea
then improved on it by giving 'Topic index' a separate CSS class
instead of using h1, since that drops the text too far down. Check it
out as it is now uploaded.

Tiddlers to import (for those who are using NBN, are following this
discussion, and want their NBNs just like the current version:

NoteNote and TopicNote
StyleSheet and MainMenu

I like my bigger topmenu, but that is an aesthetic preference. I don't
think most users will want the instructions in the mainmenu - that
should be their personal space for user notes. Instructions will get
lost in the middle of the index eventually as they add items. But
anyhoo, I like what you did and am glad that NBN is helpful for you.

Dave

Morris Gray

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Sep 25, 2008, 2:30:03 AM9/25/08
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Dave

> Nice adaptation - I especially liked the plagiarism notes in a file
> that has been copied and adapted without acknowledgement. Just kidding!

No you're not. Since you've just made keeping notes so easy I thought
I'd better show people the path of temptation you've steered them
down ;-) I wasn't suggesting putting Instructions on the MainMenu,
while I was on a roll I just plagiarized the nearest thing I could
find to try:-)

Actually I was seeing how easy it was to address Eric Wier's comment:

> I'd like to be
> able to drag-and-drop tiddlers, and any subtiddlers they may have, to
> locations that make sense to me. I don't want TW to decide where they go
> on the basis of the characters in tags or titles.

By using normal outline style you can easily put the Topics and sub-
topics where they belong by naming the parts correctly as you normally
would in a document.

Do you intend to not have tag chooser for ordinary new tiddler and
journal? I've included the facility because I think it should be
there.

Anyhow it's a good lightweight and useful addition to your stable of
TiddlyWikis and I intend to use it in outlining my new book; "The
Importance of Moose Hunting in Presidential Election Years."

Morris:-)


On Sep 25, 11:00 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

DionV

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Oct 1, 2008, 12:44:29 PM10/1/08
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On Sep 20, 12:52 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
<giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I sometimes wish I would stop getting more and more ideas for using
> and reconfiguring TiddlyWiki. I told myself a year ago that I would
> stop creating new TiddlyWiki stuff and just back to data entry on the
> TWs I use to share New Testament notes for my students.

[...snip...]

> I would love your feedback after you play with it for a bit.
>
> Dave


Thank you for a wonderful adaptation/implementation of TiddlyWiki! The
way you have laid things out and explained them in NBN is almost
perfect for my computer notes file I have been working on, based on
the EncryptedVaultPlugin demo created by Pascal Collin.

After a bit of trial-and-error I think I have successfully married NBN
and EVP. I added the following plugins to NBN:

* EncryptedVaultPlugin
* LaunchApplicationPlugin
* ShowLocalDirectory
* FramedLinksPlugin

I also added a hardware scanning tool, WinAudit to a sub directory
under the one I have placed NBN in, and created a tiddler inside the
vault that contains a LaunchApplication link to WinAudit to perform an
automated scan of the PC and save a text file to the same directory
WinAudit is in. In the same tiddler, ShowLocalDirectory displays a
list of the saved files.

I have only tested this on my own machine at the moment, as I am still
tweaking things, but I should be able to place NBN on a USB key, plug
the key into another system, open NBN, unlock the vault, navigate to
the WinAudit tiddler and scan the system. (I am currently debating
with myself whether to import the scan as a tiddler, or just leave it
as an external file)

I can also create topics, sub-topics, and notes for each piece of
hardware and software I want to keep track of, and software
configuration information, license keys, passwords, etc.

Since this instance of NBN is encrypted, I do not need to worry so
much about having all this critical information fall into the wrong
hands. I can leave a copy with my clients, and carry one with me, just
in case.

I'm pondering adding the plugin that allows revision history for each
tiddler to be kept, but that might be a bit much for one file to
contain eventually.

Just thought I would pass this along.

Thank you to everyone involved with creating Tiddlywiki, TW plugins,
and TW off-shoots. What a great community!

DionV

pixelwax

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Oct 1, 2008, 7:53:50 PM10/1/08
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Wow! That is one simple TW. I love the sidebar toggle. I'll have to
poke around in search of that functionality. Like the < History > nav
too.

> The annoying 'topics' level has been
> eliminated.

How ever did you do that?!

I'm a big fan of siteMap and have only disliked one thing, the
annoying first bullet / indent, and would love to get my MPTW to do
away with it, too.

thanks
-pw

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Oct 3, 2008, 10:06:36 AM10/3/08
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Hi DionV and pixelwax

Thanks for your kind comments and how you are using NBN.

pw, here's how I did it:
1. I made my MainMenu into a ForEachTiddler macro that shows the
content only of tiddlers tagged with MainTopic or something like
that.
2. The "New Main Topic" button/macro in the topmenu adds that tag to
any new main topic tiddler, so its contents show up in the Mainmenu
when you refresh it.
3. As long as you add the tiddler title of your new main topic menu
tiddler to the sitemap macro code in the contents window of that same
tiddler, the tiddler contents and hence what is viewed in the mainmenu
will show the sitemap for that topic.
4. That way the mainmenu shows your topics as an automatically
populating list of sitemaps rather than a 'topics' sitemap which has
to be opened.

If I could get rid of the need for refreshing I would, but I think
that's beyond me at this point. I also have trouble doing anything
with it in IE. Firefox works great, and Chrome does with the applet. I
don't have a way to test it on Opera and other browsers.

I am in the process of moving to a new home, and I don't have Internet
set up there yet, so I am not checking in here frequently. But I
appreciate your comments and would love to hear more from others.
Gotta run.

Dave
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