Cannot edit or delete a few tiddlers

[rafaeld]

Tiddlywiki version:  2.6.5
Variation:  MGSD
Browser:  Firefox 17.0.1 on Linux Mint 14
Tiddlyfox plugin installed:  yes
Level: newbie

I have a couple of tiddlers that I cannot edit or delete. When opened to edit, they have no tags (and have no content). They appear as actions under a project, and some (but not all) of their titles display in italics. How do I edit or delete these tiddlers? 

I have tried pasting in tags from another tiddler and saving. That seems to work for a minute, but then they revert to the same unedited state.

I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I have spent at least 50 minutes trying to Google an answer and find it difficult to find anything. I have tried searching within the Tiddlywiki Google group and googling generally (not within the group).

FYI: I recently spent 4+ hours upgrading from an earlier version, which involved starting with a blank file of MGSD, importing all tiddlers, installing TiddlyFox, etc. This file seems to be working properly now except for this problem, but a residual issue is possible.

[David Szego]

Hi Rafael, a couple of things to try:

Load your TW with " #start:safe " on the end i.e.:   file:///whatever.html#start:safe
That will prevent any plugins from loading, which may be part of the issue.

Also, you may have a theme issue. Try opening any Tiddlers tagged with "systemTheme" and applying them (you may see an "apply" command in the Toolbar of a Theme Tiddler).

Finally, since you've already got your Tiddlers exported and ready, give my dGSD a try - it's a huge set of enhancements that really brings mGSD to the next level, including a much cleaner theme, more detailed Project and Action tracking and delegation, new features for Meetings, Attendees and Agenda Items, Project Status and Progress tracking, a dropdown Ticker Calendar, cleaner Dashboards and layouts, and even a Book Library and Book Notes!

You can find it here:
http://thinkcreatesolve.biz/dGSD.html

If you can recreate the blank Tiddler issue with this, I'd be happy to help you debug it further.

Cheers,
David.

[rafaeld]

Thank you, David, for the quick and thoughtful reply. I'm still working through your possible things to try.

I saw last week that you had created dGSD and appreciated your significant contribution to the community. My biggest fear with TW/MGSD is lack of support and development. You are addressing that. I just took a quick look at dGSD. (I like the books feature!) My main question is whether you intend to stick with it for a couple of years. Knowing that would give me more confidence to try it. (Also, I use Areas a lot. dGSD doesn't deprecate those, does it?)

Thank you again for your reply and your contributions to the community.

[rafaeld]

I actually decided to try to jump directly to using dGSD. Having trouble importing in FF 17, so am trying to do in FF14. Even though I'm using the import tiddler plugin and have source file in same directory, it just hangs trying to open the list of tiddlers.

So I downloaded another empty version of dGSD. Before i've done anything to the file, I get the error in macro plugins message, and find no clear solutions in Google.

It's Christmas Eve and I don't expect support on this today (or tomorrow). Do your life, everybody.

[David Szego]

Wiln reply in detail later, but 2 tips - import using #start:safe in FF14 is almost guaranteed, and dont import with the browse-for-file button, put file:///same-path-to-your-tw/dGSD-export.html in the import URL field, then click open.

Thanks for "jumping in"! And I suspect I'll be at it for quite a while so long as browsers and TW5 (eventually) support everything smoothly! Glad you like the books feature... thats the whole reason I started using a TW at all, but since I couldnt find a good book notes keeper I decided I had to write one, so then of course I had to write a project manager to manage the project of writing a book notes keeper,and so came dGSD. After that I was finally able to write a book notes keeper. You know how these things happen!!

Happy holidays,
David

[rafaeld]

David, I am replying now while it's fresh in my mind. I don't expect you to reply for perhaps 48 hours or next week if you're doing away.  Happy holidays

I'm doing all the following using FF14 on MSWin7 (I generally use Linux, but moved to my Win box where I have FF14). Also, I'm downloading a fresh version of dGSD, copying it and renaming the file but making no other changes except as noted below. The operations below are performed on the file that was the renamed copy:

If I use #start:safe, that seems to disable all plugins and I get CORS error (even just putting in full path or file only, without browsing) when trying to important source TW file in same directory. However, the way to work around CORS error is TiddlyFileImportr plugin. But even if I install it, I can't activate it because I'm in #start:safe and no plugins can be activated.

If I do NOT use #start:safe, when i click on plugins I see error in macro<<plugins>>.  That's even before i try to install TiddlyFileImportr so I don't bother.

[rafaeld]

I am still using MGSD, and never did figure out how to delete the ghost tiddlers. Everything else is working OK, so I'm just muddling through. But I would welcome help on deleting ghost tiddlers.
Rafael