Documentation in Russian

[Sergey Shishkin]

Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? Tell me please.

http://tw5rudoc.tiddlyspot.com

[PMario]

Hi Sergey,

Well done!

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 6:41:34 PM UTC+1, Sergey Shishkin wrote:

Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? Tell me please.

http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com

If you use a "<shift> browser reload", which disables the browser cache, it should work faster the next time :) It works well for me.
-m

 

[Sergey Shishkin]

Thank you Mario, 

I understand the idea about clearing browser's cache

Now I noticed that the situation has changed and even the server automatically saves after each exit tiddlera edition mode when I'm still not going to do it myself. Miracles! But can someone something has changed there? :)

вторник, 19 июля 2016 г., 23:38:42 UTC+2 пользователь PMario написал:

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sergey

It’s great to see the Russian translation, thank you.

To get this translated version on http://tiddlywiki.com/languages/ru-RU/index.html we need to move the translated tiddlers into our GitHub repo. I can happily do that, and then you can send updates to the translation in two ways:

* By providing me with an edited version of the file the translated wiki. I can then manually extract and merge the changes

* If you’re familiar with GitHub, sending a pull request

There is at least one other Russian-speaker in the community - sini-Kit, who I’ve copied in case they’d like to get involved in the translation.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[sini-Kit]

Привет, Сергей! Мне тоже очень нравится Tiddlywiki. Я дописал к TW5 модуль javascript корзины и превратил ее в Вики-магазин вот мой сайт http://heeg.ru/ он тоже сделан полностью на tiddlywiki

Если будут вопросы - обращайся буду рад помочь.

вторник, 19 июля 2016 г., 20:41:34 UTC+3 пользователь Sergey Shishkin написал:

Friends, I am not a programmer. But I like your TW5 and I decided to translate the documentation into Russian. I decided to try to save the file on tiddlyspot. I uploaded file according to the instructions. But when I modified it, then the domain for a long time was the initial unmodified version. It was only after some time it appeared. This delay is normal? Tell me please.

http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com

[Sergey Shishkin]

Hi Jeremy

Firstly, thank you that you dare to implement such an interesting project. By the way, when it will be possible to rename the tags?

If the situation with the transfer becomes official turn, I must come to this formally and preserve the structure as http: //tiddlywiki.com Now I did vary slightly, based only on the core and with a plugin Russification. Unfortunately, GitHub not know and I find it easier to provide from time to time modified wiki. But there will Tiddlers untranslated and translated simultaneously. So it will be easier to control, that is translated and what is not. Not garante high performance and speed. To do this, I need time. But I promise to finish the job. If you provide a brief instructions on how and where to put the modified file, then I can do it myself.

And further. I, apparently, nothing modified frequently and directly in the network file http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com. Now there more than fifty backup copies 2MB each http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com/backup/. Could you tell the owners of the cloud, it is necessary to somehow clean it. Leave only the latest version.

With best regards, Sergey

среда, 20 июля 2016 г., 9:50:01 UTC+2 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал:

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sergey

Firstly, thank you that you dare to implement such an interesting project. By the way, when it will be possible to rename the tags?

It’s not on my immediate list, but definitely something I’d like to have.

If the situation with the transfer becomes official turn, I must come to this formally and preserve the structure as http: //tiddlywiki.kom Now I did vary slightly, based only on the core and with a plug-Russification. Unfortunately, Guthubom not know and I find it easier to provide from time to time modified wiki. But there will Tiddlery untranslated and translated simultaneously. So it will be easier to control, that is translated and what is not. Not garaniruyu high performance and speed. To do this, I need time. But I promise to finish the job. If you provide a brief instructions on how and where to put the modified file, then I can do it myself.

Keep the file on TiddlySpot, or Dropbox or anywhere else convenient. Just send me a link when you are ready for publication. Subsequently, you should make any updates by modifying the official ru-RU wiki.

And further. I, apparently, nothing modified frequently and directly in the network file http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com. Now there more than fifty backup copies 2MB each http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com/backup/. Could you tell the owners of the cloud, it is necessary to somehow clean it. Leave only the latest version.

Don’t worry, the people who run TiddlySpot are happy to tolerate the backups we produce.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[Sergey Shishkin]

Здравствуйте! Извините, не знаю как вам лучше обращаться :)

Я видел уже ваш проект. Интересно. А вопросы есть. Если Вы умеете обращаться с GitHub, то было бы неплохо, если бы Вы пояснили, что я могу сделать, чтобы слишком не обременять Jeremy.

среда, 20 июля 2016 г., 12:40:43 UTC+2 пользователь sini-Kit написал:

[Siniy-Kit]

Если вы хотите сделать перевод сайта http://tiddlywiki.com/ , вам не нужен гидхаб. Просто скачайте вики Джереми (смотри Приложение),  правьте все статьи на русский текст, сохраняйте к себе на комп изменения и когда закончите, просто отправьте русский вариант вики Джереми на почту, а он ручками добавит ваш вариант перевода к себе на сайт.

среда, 20 июля 2016 г., 18:22:33 UTC+3 пользователь Sergey Shishkin написал:

[Sergey Shishkin]

Это понятно. И я уже начал так делать. Но он говорит о двух возможностях. И я зарегился на Github и хотел бы загружать сам модифицированные версии куда-то, не отвлекая кого-то. Что я не понимаю. Если там будет лежать, это можно видеть в браузере. Или Github  просто хранилище файлов для загрузки и скачивания?

21 июля 2016 г., 15:49 пользователь Siniy-Kit <nera...@gmail.com> написал:

Если вы хотите сделать перевод сайта http://tiddlywiki.com/ , вам не нужен гидхаб. Просто скачайте вики Джереми (смотри вложения),  правьте все статьи на русский текст, сохраняйте к себе на комп изменения и когда закончите, просто отправьте русский вариант вики Джереми на почту, а он ручками добавит ваш вариант перевода к себе на сайт.

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вторник, 19 июля 2016 г., 19:41:34 UTC+2 пользователь Sergey Shishkin написал:

[Sergey Shishkin]

Hi Jeremy

Thank you for taking the time to answer. Can I still takes time because it is not a programmer. The last time I wrote code 30 years ago in Fortran (I was once a mathematician). But more to the point. I became interested in history and decided to translate the documentation for friends who are not aware of any foundations of computer science or English. But I want to develop in our club the exchange of information on the Web format. Tiddli file ideal tool for creating processes, events tiddlers. Nowhere I can not see a good example of how you can effectively use my-special-list and

myfield, to empty edition them not. Maybe you know someone about it, writing something. That is, I need custom fields. While not familiar with java script. But I'm sure that in a year or two, studying with tiddlywiki I'll be useful.

And further. I'm under the file documentation did another address on tiddlyspot (http://tw5rudoc.tiddlyspot.com) and old address I want to use for my project development standard for the historical process and historical events (http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com).

I think that by the 1st September will be ready to transfer. And I was even able to maintain it then improving. I see prospects for the development of your project and how much it can help.

All the best, Sergey

среда, 20 июля 2016 г., 17:22:17 UTC+2 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал:

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sergey

And further. I'm under the file documentation did another address on tiddlyspot (http://tw5rudoc.tiddlyspot.com) and old address I want to use for my project development standard for the historical process and historical events (http://chwiki.tiddlyspot.com).

I think that by the 1st September will be ready to transfer. And I was even able to maintain it then improving. I see prospects for the development of your project and how much it can help.

Great, I’ll look forward to it, and many thanks for your help,

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[Sergey Shishkin]

Hi Jeremy

Congratulations on the next release. And could you comment on this situation? 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/EupREfXee2E

I wonder what it thinks the guru. For me it is essential. I am now a perpetual user tiddliwiki, but I found tiddliwiki in the search for solutions for this project! :)

Sergey

понедельник, 25 июля 2016 г., 14:43:32 UTC+2 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал:

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sergey

Congratulations on the next release. And could you comment on this situation? 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/EupREfXee2E

I’ll see if I can usefully comment over on the thread.

By the way, I noticed that you’d created some pages in the wiki section of github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5; the project doesn’t actually use the GitHub wiki pages. To avoid confusion I’ve now disabled the wiki page feature.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sergey

Congratulations on the next release. And could you comment on this situation? 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/EupREfXee2E

I’ll see if I can usefully comment over on the thread.

Apologies, I’m going to have to leave Richard to reply, as it’s quite a long answer and I don’t have time right now.

Best wishes

Jeremy

[Sergey Shishkin]

I see. And my chutzpah, too. Hope for understanding. I have patience.

понедельник, 25 июля 2016 г., 15:52:03 UTC+2 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал: