Making Use of the TiddlyWiki thing!
Webiter
as a blog tool? That is can I attach it to a website by installing a
header and site navigation above it as if it were a blog? Or, am I
just on the wrong track!
Eric Shulman
TiddlyWiki documents are just single HTML files. Thus, you can upload
it to any web server and view it without needing any extra 'header' or
'site navigation'. TiddlyWiki is self-contained, so that external
navigation of it's content isn't needed.
Here's an example of a "blog-like" TiddlyWiki that you can download
and populate with your own content:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/quickstart/tiddlyblog.html
Once you've added/edited your own content, just upload the file to
your website's server, and you should be all set to view it remotely.
Note: although you can *view* the online TW document, all editing has
to be done on your local filesystem and then 'published' by
uploading. There *are* solutions that allow remote editing, by adding
a plugin to your document and a PHP script on your server, but that is
a bit more complicated to set up as compared to simply working locally
and uploading when you want to publish your changes.
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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Pat Flynn
I am following some of the TiddlyWiki conversations but as yet I am not getting it as maybe some of the conversations are over my head. Maybe I lack familiarity with Wiki principles! I was attaching a blog to a site in the past few days and I tested it at www.test.webitry.net with the website header and navigation fixed above it. It is still there in the test position.
Going back to my earlier enquiry does TiddlyWiki lend itself to such similar use without the comments facility. Its single page HTML makes it less cumbersome than a blog script. Can a Wiki approach provide a clients blog space with more interactivity across topics than a standard blog? Again forgive me if I am still off track.
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>I was attaching a blog to a site in the past few days and I tested it atwww.test.webitry.netwith the website header and navigation fixed above it.
> ...does TiddlyWiki lend itself to such similar use without the comments facility.
There are a lot of different blog-like themes available:
http://tiddlythemes.com
http://themes.tiddlyspace.com
> Can a Wiki approach provide a clients blog space with more interactivity across topics than a standard blog?
Please explain what you mean when you say "more interactivity across
topics than a standard blog"??
One of the things that makes TiddlyWiki unique compared to other wikis
and "standard blogs" is the fact that it is extremely customizable and
portable.
There are *so* many plugins available for it, different plugins
reflecting that TiddlyWiki is used for very different things..
Checkout Eric's plugin repository: http://tiddlytools.com
Some years ago Dave Gifford made this showcase of TiddlyWiki usage:
http://giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/
On tiddlyspace ( http://tiddlyspace.com ) there's the "featured
spaces" (it's fairly up to date and showcases some of the "cutting
edge" usage of TiddlyWiki on TiddlySpace ):
http://featured.tiddlyspace.com
Eric pointed to one of his great QuickStart documents earlier in this
thread.
Eric published a blog featuring a lightly customized version of his
quickstart document here: http://lumpymilk.tiddlyspot.com/
If you want to learn how to use/understand the lingo of TiddlyWiki
http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html is a good place to start
- even if it's a little out of date (Author: Dave Gifford)
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/ (Author: Morris Gray) is another great
ressource..
http://tiddlywiki.org is a work in progress - a great ressource
already ..
Cheers Måns Mårtensson
HansBKK
Going back to my earlier enquiry does TiddlyWiki lend itself to such similar use without the comments facility. Its single page HTML makes it less cumbersome than a blog script. Can a Wiki approach provide a clients blog space with more interactivity across topics than a standard blog? Again forgive me if I am still off track.
For a javascript hacker, TiddlyWiki can be turned into a platform for just about any functionality, so asking here "can TW do X?" will always get a "sure!" response. The real question is "can **I** make TW do X" and no one can answer that for you.
As a relatively non-technical end-user, I advise you to take some time getting intimate with TW's core functionality and then start getting to know some of the more popular plugins - TiddlyWiki is a fantastically flexible tool for putting together a personal knowledgebase, letting you quickly enter in snippets and chunks of information, and then going back to give the collection structure later on, building user interfaces, linking between topics etc.
For myself, it took me about a month-equivalent of full-time work to get to the point where I really felt comfortable with the tool using it as it was originally intended, and it is a wonderful program. Out of the box + a few plug-ins will I'm sure give you the same functionality as that offered by every blogging tool out there. However extending TW to handle your future desires as a blogging platform will require custom programming in Javascript.
My own opinion based on the limited background info in your message is that you should consider one of the mainstream tools explicitly designed to serve as a blogging platform - for example, Wordpress has a **huge** supporting community of active users and authors of all kinds of plug-ins that add functionality you haven't even thought of yet.
Just my two ¢ worth. . .