Bob - very basic installation help needed

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JWHoneycutt

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Nov 23, 2018, 2:46:20 PM11/23/18
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I am trying to install "Bob", (software) I had avoided because the name does not connote anything to me.

    • Multi-User support for using/editing the same wiki(s) simultaneously (don't need)
    • Multi-Wiki support - run it once and serve multiple wikis (I have so many wikis that I spend too much time searching amongst them - hoping this solves it)
    • Two-way real-time syncing between the browser and file system (sounds good)
To do use this go here (https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-BobEXE) and download the file for your system (BobLinux for linux, BobWin.exe for windows and BobOSX for mac). Then run the file.

I downloaded "BobOSX.command" and moved it to my Dropbox folder with all my other TW5.html files

When I try to execute it, I am told I do not have privileges, despite confirming that myself (actually everyone as well) has Read and Write permissions

BobOSX.command_permissions.pngBobOSX.png

 I am running MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 on a MacBook Air - is there a simple thing I am overlooking?

jwhoneycutt

Mark S.

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Nov 23, 2018, 4:42:18 PM11/23/18
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I don't use Mac, but I do use Linux, which is similar in some ways. What I notice about your permissions is that you don't have execution permissions for your Bob file. Possibly look up at how to set the executable right on your file.

On Linux, what I would do is drop to a terminal box in the directory and execute

chmod 744 BobOSX.command

But there's probably a GUI way to do it in Mac.

Good luck
-- Mark

TonyM

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Nov 23, 2018, 8:43:35 PM11/23/18
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jwhoneycutt,

I believe Bob does not serve single file Wikis. TiddlyServer will, but the install is a little more complex and configuring the settings.json file to point to your tiddlywiki folder a little fragile. You could import your single file wikis into bob folder based wikis if you want, but I am not sure what your expect bob to do for you. For me one value of bob is not so much multi-user but multi-access, ie I can keep tiddlywikis closed because if I open them more than once the change will be reflected in both tabs/windows and I will not overwrite my own work.

I would suggest if you are happy to use FireFox or Chrome and only use single file wikis you obtain the Timimi plugin and install that and your Tiddlywiki files will all be savable when accessed on the file system from either of these browsers. Use TiddleyServer, Bob or NodeJS if you want to serve wikis over your LAN

On the other hand TiddlyDesktop (linux/mac not sure) is a good way to access file and folder wikis and build your own "menu of wikis" from one installed application.

I am not sure you will be able to "search" all your TiddlyWikis from Bob as you imply. With Timimi you could use the Operating system search to find wikis holding a string and then open them in the default browser. I prefer to organise my wikis so I know which one to search for what, I have an index/directory wiki to support this.

Regards
Tony

dcastonguay

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Nov 23, 2018, 11:52:17 PM11/23/18
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In addition to what Mark said, you might have to give that file permissions to execute.

If that BobOSX.command file is on your desktop, then you would do the following:
chmod +x ~/Desktop/BobOSX.command

Jed Carty

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Nov 24, 2018, 3:51:15 AM11/24/18
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The chmod +x solution suggested by Mark and dcastonguay is correct, to my knowledge there isn't a gui method for changing file permissions is osx. I have not found any way to consistently set the execute permission so that when you download the file it works without you having to set it.

And I got complaints about the name back when I tried to make it descriptive so I gave up and just called it Bob.

JWHoneycutt

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Nov 24, 2018, 9:56:30 AM11/24/18
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@Jed
Thank you for creating Bob.  BTW, I find just about everything you do with TW5 fascinating. I have Bob up on my wifi network and will play with it to see what advantages it provides for my use case.

@Mark S and dcastonguay
Thank you - I would have never found this solution without your input. Running this command inside Terminal was a crucial bit of info.

@TonyM
I do use TiddlyDesktop on my mac (exclusively) and it works great - except for the inability to know where the relevant tiddler is located among many files.  You mention "Timimi" - is there a reference you can provide to find this plugin?  Maybe inside a personal plugin library?

I appreciate all your support!

jwhoneycutt





Mark S.

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Nov 24, 2018, 11:18:22 AM11/24/18
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