How Big Can A TiddyWiki Get?

[Vince O'Sullivan]

I searched the group before asking this and found an entry with
exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005. Way back
then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
enough.

I was wondering if anyone is currently working with a bigger
TiddlyWiki and how it was going for them.

Vince.

[Morris Gray]

> exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005. Way back
> then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> enough.

I think an empty TW I about 320 K now.

One of the most popular sites in constant use is TiddlyTools
http://www.tiddlytools.com/ is running at about 2.4 MB. My own TW
Help is about 1.8 MB http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/ with 750 tiddlers.

I believe wolfgang has set some sort of record it is 'Changing
Themes', a showcase TiddlyWiki with hundreds of themes, palettes,
scripts and plugins With it's 3.7 MB and a slow internet connection
it's better to it open it from your drive by downloading it first:
http://change.tiddlyspot.com/download

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
http://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
tabbed notes for the taking

[Amzg]

From what I understand, the main limitation is speed i.e it takes "too
long" to load - and this in turn is mainly a consequence of the amount
of tiddlers.

/Mat

On Jan 7, 5:48 pm, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
> > exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005. Way back
> > then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> > enough.
>
> I think an empty TW I about 320 K now.
>

> One of the most popular sites in constant use is TiddlyToolshttp://www.tiddlytools.com/is running at about 2.4 MB. My own TW
> Help is about 1.8 MBhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/with 750 tiddlers.

>
> I believe wolfgang has set some sort of record it is 'Changing
> Themes', a showcase TiddlyWiki with hundreds of themes, palettes,
> scripts and plugins With it's 3.7 MB and a slow internet connection
> it's better to it open it from your drive by downloading it first:http://change.tiddlyspot.com/download
>

> Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
> A TiddlyWiki help file for beginnershttp://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/

[Ken Girard]

A big part of the speed of a TW opening is plugins, espcially ones
that redraw things or continuosly keep looking for changes.
Another is which browser you use. I can barely get TiddlyTools to
function on IE6 until I get all the flashing stuff turned off, but
have no problem with it at all using Firefox.
If all you have is just normal tiddlers, then I think once the TW is
open there shouldn't be any problem at all. And even getting it open
should only be limited by how long it takes to download a file that
big.

Ken Girard

On Jan 7, 1:48 pm, Amzg <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From what I understand, the main limitation is speed i.e it takes "too
> long" to load - and this in turn is mainly a consequence of the amount
> of tiddlers.
>
> /Mat
>
> On Jan 7, 5:48 pm, Morris Gray <msg...@symbex.net.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005.  Way back
> > > then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> > > enough.
>
> > I think an empty TW I about 320 K now.
>

> > One of the most popular sites in constant use is TiddlyToolshttp://www.tiddlytools.com/isrunning at about 2.4 MB.  My own  TW
> > Help is about 1.8 MBhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/with750 tiddlers.

>
> > I believe wolfgang has set some sort of record it is 'Changing
> > Themes', a showcase TiddlyWiki with hundreds of themes, palettes,
> > scripts and plugins With it's 3.7 MB and a slow internet connection
> > it's better to it open it from your drive by downloading it first:http://change.tiddlyspot.com/download
>
> > Morris Grayhttp://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
> > A TiddlyWiki help file for beginnershttp://twt-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
> > tabbed notes for the taking
>
> > On Jan 8, 2:44 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" <vjosulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I searched the group before asking this and found an entry with
> > > exactly the same title as above, however, it was dated 2005.  Way back
> > > then there seemed to be a consensus that about 500kb was about big
> > > enough.
>
> > > I was wondering if anyone is currently working with a bigger
> > > TiddlyWiki and how it was going for them.
>

> > > Vince.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[FND]

FWIW:
http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Performance_Issues

-- F.

[Vince O'Sullivan]

Thanks all. That's encouraging. My WorkWiki is growing steadily and
I wanted to be sure I wasn't going to be left with an unmanageable
mess if it outgrew its capabilities.

Vince.

[Marc J. Cawood]

I have some really big TWs, one is a diary, the other is the Bible. It
is indeed slow because of the sheer number of tiddlers but you can
speed things up by using my ArchivePlugin (http://
jackparke.googlepages.com/jtw.html#ArchivePlugin) to keep the actual
content seperate from the TW file. It is then loaded only as required
- i.e. when a tiddler is opened.

[kilucas]

I'd assumed that open tiddlers hidden by the TiddlersBar (so only a
tab was visible) wouldn't generate much runtime overhead but I now
suspect that they're processsed in some way because some maths errors
were being thrown in open tiddlers even though they were open but out
of sight while another tiddler had focus. Closing these faulty
tiddlers halted the errors.

I also had some tiddlers containing lots of maths and which were slow
to process when given focus. Such slowness continued even when these
tiddlers were open in the tiddler bar but were out of sight while
another much smaller tiddler had the visual focus.

I've therefore learned to close tiddlers I'm not using rather than
leaving them open on the tab bar unless I'm returning to them
frequently.

Kevin