Wild idea.....TW makes music!

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skye riquelme

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Aug 4, 2011, 3:25:36 PM8/4/11
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Hi All

Just a wild idea. Using various plugins, TW can play videos, play
music, tune in to radio stations......all great stuff...and also
rather passive.....just receiving and playing other files!!!! (Not
that its such a mundane thing to do!).

But how about a Plugin that lets me record into TW. Obviously an
integration with a program that allows me to say...record same simple
instructions ..... or parte of a talk......or even a screen shot of me
using TW?

Crazy, or just plain impossible?

Thanks anyway
Skye

Alex Hough

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Aug 4, 2011, 5:11:34 PM8/4/11
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Skye,

I don't know if its possible with TW, but I had a similar idea.

The core concept is a text book. Where the textbook asks the reader to write down their thoughts about their personal experience and how it relates to the theory, a paper book would have a text box with some lines. Instead of this one could record a video of yourself. It would be like a video jounal embedded in the text book.

It might sound like heresy here in TW world, but I have been playing with an iPad: the videoing is really very good. I got to thinking that the iPad could be progammed to switch on its own camera, record a video, then save it, then provide a button for reviewing. (there could be a number of videos tracking your learning jounney)

I see iPad's Apps benefit from the close integration with the hardware, camera for instance. I am not sure if the same level of integration could be met in a browser.

But in terms of TiddlyMindSet - i would truly love to make a <<new VideoTiddler>> and then have the video camera open up... or a <<scanQR>> marco.

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a iPad kind of TiddlyMachine - a machine for TiddlyWiki. A single purpose machine: like the wonderful Budha Machine [1]

I couldn't help but notice Mr TiddlyUberCoolHardwareArtist (@9600) tweet : "RT @njrabit: There is a TiddlyWiki app in AppStore, mostly a wrapper around Safari with some tweaks & features for saving/syncing but great nonetheless."

It would be awesome if there was a TW machine that could have plugins which were like iPad apps; a camera, a QR reader .... and some of the UI functions ... like when a window spins round and you look at the back.

Clearly some violation of the Open Source philosophy required here, but could there be a way in which an open source operating system  could link the core tiddly philosophy and feel into a device with camera and the software not be in a browser?


Alex
[1] http://www.fm3buddhamachine.com/v2/


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Alex Hough

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Aug 4, 2011, 5:16:34 PM8/4/11
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Oh... I forgot
I wanted to say
Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could , from your TiddlyMachine, add <<newSynth>> to your MainMenu, and after installing the relevant plugin, you have something like a 'new grainbender tiddler' to edit.

[1] http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2011/07/26/grainbender-synthesizer-for-ipad/

Måns

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Aug 4, 2011, 6:15:20 PM8/4/11
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Hi Skye

> that allows me to say...record same simple
> instructions ..... or parte of a talk......or even a screen shot of me
> using TW?

A little test of vocaroo.com: http://tinyurl.com/3hhevkf
http://bubblecomment.com seems to be able to cut the deal regarding
online webcam recordings and sharing..
I couldn't make the soundrecording via flash + webcam work on my pc -
however it did record my webcam online ... (I use Puppy Linux ...)

If you want to play around with a online music studios and do
recording online - (you can embed most of it via an iframe) checkout
aviary's Myna, Jamstudio or SoundCloud..

http://myna.tiddlyspot.com

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Måns

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Aug 4, 2011, 6:33:03 PM8/4/11
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If you log into youtube (you can use your googleaccount) and click
upload - then you'll get the option to use your own webcam...

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

On 5 Aug., 00:15, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Skye
>
> > that allows me to say...record same simple
> > instructions ..... or parte of a talk......or even a screen shot of me
> > using TW?
>
> A little test of vocaroo.com:http://tinyurl.com/3hhevkfhttp://bubblecomment.comseems to be able to cut the deal regarding

Måns

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Aug 4, 2011, 6:38:48 PM8/4/11
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If you copy/paste the link to your video into goo.gl you'll get the QR
code...

On 5 Aug., 00:33, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you log into youtube (you can use your googleaccount) and click
> upload - then you'll get the option to use your own webcam...
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> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
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> On 5 Aug., 00:15, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Hi Skye
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> > > that allows me to say...record same simple
> > > instructions ..... or parte of a talk......or even a screen shot of me
> > > using TW?
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> > A little test of vocaroo.com:http://tinyurl.com/3hhevkfhttp://bubblecomment.comseemsto be able to cut the deal regarding

rakugo

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Aug 5, 2011, 5:40:05 AM8/5/11
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In Google Chrome you can use voice to text with simple html markup
This blog post explains it nicely
http://nooshu.com/experimenting-with-webkit-form-speech-input

And a demo is here:
http://nooshu.com/explore/santa-speech-api/

Although note it's not always that good.
I just said "chicken" and although it detected chicken it also added a
swear word for some reason...! :)

With HTML5 you can also play audio files - I've already done this in
TiddlySpace
http://audio.tiddlyspace.com/#COW1.mp3%20SiteInfo

For a local TiddlyWiki you can use base64 file uris instead of
tiddlyspace uris to the audio file (I think Eric has a plugin) so
should be able to achieve the same thing (albeit for older browsers)

Happy TiddlyWiki-ing!

On Aug 4, 11:38 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you copy/paste the link to your video into goo.gl you'll get the QR
> code...
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> On 5 Aug., 00:33, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > If you log into youtube (you can use your googleaccount) and click
> > upload - then you'll get the option to use your own webcam...
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> > Cheers Måns Mårtensson
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> > On 5 Aug., 00:15, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Hi Skye
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> > > > that allows me to say...record same simple
> > > > instructions ..... or parte of a talk......or even a screen shot of me
> > > > using TW?
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> > > A little test of vocaroo.com:http://tinyurl.com/3hhevkfhttp://bubblecomment.comseemstobe able to cut the deal regarding

Mad Scientist Jr

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Sep 29, 2011, 3:03:36 PM9/29/11
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I've been toying with this idea too for a while.

Last year I started using Moe's Notes on iPhone for recording music
ideas / videos / images / text (TWEdit hadn't come out yet for iOS).
Moe's Notes (& Notepad for iPad) works great to quickly capture ideas,
but I wish my TiddlyWiki could do that stuff when I'm on the PC or
Android device.

I think that the YouTube sounds OK, but I would really like to be able
to record offline as well.

PS the <<newSynth>> idea is awesome. If the right framework/tools/
standard can be created for TW, it could make it possible for people
to invent their own instruments (and even embed songs in them) and
share them as tiddlers... If only the iPad was this open, with that
interface, oh man :-)

Has anyone explored MIDI capability in TW / JavaScript? I know there
are plenty of HTML 5 sequencers out, but have been too busy to really
look into how it's done. Any good tutorials or simple examples out
there?

Also it would be awesome to do actual ADSR or analog-style synthesis.
I've seen VB examples of WAV editors on PlanetSourceCode, has anyone
seen anything like this done from JavaScript? TW can write to files
(at least text, can it do binary?) so a start might be to have it
write a generated sample to a binary file (WAV/FLAC/etc.) and then be
able to play the sample...

(I guess either you would have to generate a "patch set" of the sound
in different pitches for the 88 piano keys, or perhaps the one sound
file could be "pitch-shifted" in realtime? Pardon my cluelessness, I'm
way over my head here, just thinking out loud.)

I would say an easy-to-use general purpose AV library with record/play
audio/video (mono, stereo, multitrack?), MIDI & sound synthesis would
be a worthy cause for TW.
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