TiddlySpot.com down - or only me?

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Mat

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Nov 8, 2017, 6:59:01 PM11/8/17
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Does http://tiddlyspot.com/ show 500 Server Error for anyone else?

I do get my TWs to load, but I can't save/upload in them.

Tried both Chrome and FF, on Win10.

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Pedruchini

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Nov 8, 2017, 7:25:57 PM11/8/17
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Same problem here.

Is Tiddlyspot dead ?

Mat

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Nov 8, 2017, 7:32:39 PM11/8/17
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 1:25:57 AM UTC+1, Pedruchini wrote:
Same problem here.

Is Tiddlyspot dead ?

Clearly not dead but, apparently then, something is wrong. I've had problems saving all day today so I'll send an alert to the tiddlypspot admin.


In case someone here doesn't know what TiddlySpot is:
TiddlySpot is a fantastic service, totally free, that lets you host TWs online. 
This is - if not the the first time - then at least one of the very few times in a decade that there is a problem. I have 100+ TWs hosted there and assuming things are solved, I strongly continue to recommend it.

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AndrewMc

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Nov 8, 2017, 8:15:28 PM11/8/17
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Yes, I too can confirm this issue. This just highlights the saving/upload issue for me as I have been editing my TW solely on Tiddlyspot and have no way to upload an edited local copy.

springer

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Nov 9, 2017, 11:33:45 AM11/9/17
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Here too. So sad. I have been relying on it, seamlessly, for years. Daily. Taking it for granted, once I had everything configured nicely...

Really not sure what alternatives there are, for getting this kind of structured info published. (I use it for all the hyperlinked notes and self-quizzes relevant to the course I teach.)

-E Springer

Birthe C

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Nov 9, 2017, 12:30:44 PM11/9/17
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Not able to save/upload to tiddlyspot is bad enough, but I have experienced several times not to be able to load from Tiddlyspot. The problems seems to have been intermittent the last week or so, but of shorter periods. Yesterday  for for along period I could neither load nor upload/save. Luckily we can at least load for now.

Birthe

coda coder

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Nov 9, 2017, 12:34:58 PM11/9/17
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There's this:  https://maarfapad.cloudno.de/about

Don't know much about it (yet) since “Maarfapad is currently in private testing phase" according to the about page.

Lost Admin

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Nov 9, 2017, 12:44:17 PM11/9/17
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I'm not ready to look for an alternative to TiddlySpot yet. Until a week has passed with no improvements, or an official notification is given, I'm going to assume this is just technical difficulties with the hosting provider.

I have, however, just saved local copies of the wikis I have on tiddlyspot and migrated them to my test webdav environment.

Eric Pavey

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Nov 11, 2017, 8:49:41 PM11/11/17
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Just jumping on the bandwagon:  Been using tiddlyspot for over a decade.
Emailed the admins, haven't heard anything back yet.
:(

JD

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Nov 12, 2017, 8:23:57 AM11/12/17
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Guys, any news? I primarily use Tiddlyspot too :(

springer

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Nov 13, 2017, 8:00:05 AM11/13/17
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Tiddlyspot still in a coma. Nothing has changed apparently. I'm checking in here daily, hoping for some glimmer of hope, or at least information...

Wen-Ming Yang

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Nov 13, 2017, 7:44:38 PM11/13/17
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Help. All the systems using tiddlyspots are down.... Any news!

Arkady Grudzinsky

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Nov 13, 2017, 9:52:36 PM11/13/17
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I was able to save my file just now.  It seems to work again.

springer

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Nov 14, 2017, 4:00:26 PM11/14/17
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Hooray! Thanks to you all for staying in touch. This is welcome news.

Mat

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Nov 14, 2017, 4:25:13 PM11/14/17
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Yes, it seems to be back! I emailed the admin, thanking them even if I never did hear anything from then form my attempts to alert them.

Maybe it had something to do with the Firefox apocalypse and they tweaked something? Just a thought.

Anyway, as noted previously; TiddlySpot rarely has any problems. This is definitely the longest duration I've experienced, and I've probably been around since it started many a years ago. 

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Nov 14, 2017, 5:10:16 PM11/14/17
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Jeremy Ruston

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Nov 14, 2017, 5:33:17 PM11/14/17
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Simon Baird, one of the TiddlySpot creators/admins replied to me on Twitter:


Great news for everybody, and many thanks to Simon and Daniel for their indomitable support efforts,

Best wishes

Jeremy 



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springer

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Nov 15, 2017, 8:12:16 AM11/15/17
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I love that TiddlyWiki and TiddlySpot are free and open-source. But this TiddlySpot edit-outage made clear how much I have been relying (since 2005 or so) on Simon and Daniel's attention to this unique server, and it sounds like I'm not alone. (You all never hear from me anymore when things are going well, because I poured my nerd-energy into customizations for the first few years and have been coasting ever since.)

Although I don't "profit" from TiddlySpot or TiddlyWiki in any direct way, I don't know how I'd teach without them, since nothing else lets me customize a powerfully responsive non-linear web of A/V resources to have at my fingertips in the classroom and ALSO lets me send students to the same source in read-only form to poke around and explore related ideas with tightly-knit internal links. In addition to studying the information I'm curating for them via the TiddlySpot site, they can also try practice quizzes (with sliders to reveal answers and explanations, as well as more links). Somehow all the dedicated courseware code I've seen (moodle, Blackboard, etc.), to which universities devote lots of attention, still offers nothing comparable. (I know, I'm preaching to the converted here...)

I'm pulling up the "Donate" link at TiddlySpot again, wanting not to take this platform for granted: http://tiddlyspot.com/?page=donate

-Elise

Måns Mårtensson

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Nov 15, 2017, 8:55:46 AM11/15/17
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@Elise
+1
Point taken :)
Followed your example, counted years of usage - and made a donation. 

Cheers

Jeremy Ruston

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Nov 15, 2017, 10:44:04 AM11/15/17
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Hi Elise

Great to see you posting again! A decade ago I was regularly quoting your site http://reasoningwell.tiddlyspot.com as a great example of using TiddlyWiki to present complex intertwingled information. Glad to see that the site is still up. Do you have anything more recent that you can share?

Best wishes

Jeremy.

springer

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Nov 26, 2017, 9:24:07 PM11/26/17
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Hi Jeremy! 

Although this "ethics" site is a pretty utilitarian and lived-in space (not especially tidied-up for visitors), it certainly is an example of a TiddlyWiki that's been in regular use (at TiddlySpot)  since 2008. Students don't edit (I have tried having students add materials in other classes, but found it too much effort to coach them through and/or clean up after them), but students can visit for study purposes, and I regularly pull up the site in class as a flexible (non-linear!) support for lecture-discussion. I have found sliders to be an effective way to include question prompts, solicit discussion, and then reveal my response and explanation. 

In case you're curious about different ways that people link disparate tools: I actually generate my regular discussion questions (five-part questions with explanations for each response) in Filemaker (which also helps generate, randomize, and score my exams based on these questions), and then have a Filemaker formula seamlessly displaying the right tiddler text to work with NestedSlidersPlugin. 

Although the site is usually set to load with materials specific to the topics being studied in a given week, here's a landing-page that might work better for non-student visitors:

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