Don't You Think We Should Get Our Act Together???

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I been amazed at the exponentiation of the rate of development of TW plugins and serious macros in the last 6 months ...

I wish we have a decent system to keep up....

It really is NOT enough expecting Gifford to do it. That is way too much for one person.

IMO we need a submission system of the huge works in progress that registers them.

Josiah

[Mohammad]

Good point Josiah!

Who is the decision maker?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I think, at moment we could rely on honesty.. First submission should be beta or alpha.

J.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For email users who don't get my first posts ...

[bimlas]

Josiah,

As I wrote earlier, we already have the tools to advertise new stuff (on the TiddlyWiki main page, which I think is the best place for such news: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Community), I think these should be promoted instead of inventing new methods.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/wU23kVoaVVs/7V2lui7FBwAJ

Note: you said this is a list generated by Erwan's aggregator, but actually it's a collection of tiddlers matching to the filter from TW.com. The filter of the "Latest" tab is:

<$list filter="[tag[Articles]] [tag[Examples]] [tag[Resources]] [tag[Tutorials]] +[!sort[modified]limit[8]]">

Erwan's aggregator: http://erwanm.github.io/tw-community-search/

So, plugin makers should be informed that they can get to the title page by writing a tiddler (+ pull request) about his product.

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

My process is not time-consuming, maybe 5-6 minutes.

1) Check Google groups once every day or two. Scan titles of top ten or so threads to see if potentially has a new plugin

2) If a new plugin, etc, open demo and copy link to demo.

3) Open toolmap and if there is any doubt, do a search for the plugin

4) Think about what category it is in

5) Paste link, wrap as Markdown link, and paste the description from either the Google group intro or the demo page

6) reply to say I added it, and if the category is not obvvious, tell which category I put it in

So don't worry about me.

Also, a couple of you have the authorization to edit the toolmap. So conceivably I am not the only one doing this. While this may result in slightly duplicated time for me if someone already added it, it may mean others catching things I did not see. So the benefit outweighs the slight possibility of a lost minute or two.

I too am grateful for the explosion of new ways of doing things in TW. Everyone wins. So it is a joy to be able to assist with this toolmap index. Blessings.

[TonyM]

On this 

I am ready (time permitting) to build a WebSite to consolidate a lot of this material and provide a higher level of community input with the ability for users to contribute, and take on subject areas etc... and yes, controversially using WordPress. I actually started http://www.colabteam.net/tiddlywiki/

More imprtiantly this TiddlyWiki was my initial design. https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/TiddlyWikiSite.html

I am all for building a TiddlyWiki solution, however there is no need to procrastinate, any solution will inform future solutions.

Still it is with a view to include and link all existing resources. To to it properly I have done considerable design and effectively a database analysis of the necessary objects that we have in the tiddlyverse and how they relate. However since I have made a few calls for input and it has so far being underwhelming, I have being reluctant to continue.

It seems to me if we defined custom post types for these objects, wikis, editions, plugins, macros, sites, demos .... we could enter each once, but reference them in each other without repetition. To do this we need a community who are prepared to share the vision and help build it. Only a few will need to give a big contribution and I am happy to be one of these, all we need to know is that a number of you will come on board, share and contribute.

Remember, nothing is final, everything can change, we must just start. It should always blend in with other efforts such as GitHub and the proposed development of a new submissions site Mario has being suggesting.

anyone?

Regards

Tony

[Riz]

if we defined custom post types for these objects, wikis, editions, plugins, macros, sites, demos .... we could enter each once, but reference them in each other without repetition.

We actually accomplished this over at reddit. Most announcements are reported there with relevant links and tagged with category. You can click on a category and see all posts tagged by the same.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5

I have been absent from the reddit side for some time. But the community there is growing (460) strong now and I am seeing aside little more time now that I don't have a major TW related project to work on.

Sincerely

Riz

[TonyM]

Riz,

Can you explain how I would see via category etc... I am not a Reddit user yet.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

David

Thank you for the detailed explanation--especially on the commit to longevity.

IMO your work on TiddlyWiki Toolmap is seriously helping TW development and traction.

Did you see the search tool in Mohammad's TW-Script for Toolmap? ... https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/#Search%20Tiddlywiki%20Toolmap

Maybe that tool could be linked to at the top of the Toolmap? Its very useful to be able to do a search of the Toolmap from within a TW.

Best wishes

Josiah

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao bimlas

This was part of my point. That a "submissions" interface of some kind might be a good idea.. Erwan's aggregator is seriously underused. I think, likely, because few people know of it. And the steps to use it are not yet "common currency".

It may be that with David Gifford's list we could retrofit to fill gaps in other places The export format of TiddlyWikiToolmap is simple OPML. The fact, though, is the Toolmap is currently the best overall resource base we have, IMO, after tiddlywiki.com.

Best wishes

Josiah