Working with large, frequently edited texts

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elar...@gmail.com

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Nov 19, 2017, 8:58:37 PM11/19/17
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Hello,

As I mentioned in an earlier posting, I’m using TiddlyWiki for a series of novels and companion wiki.  I managed to work out most of the issues with TextSlicer, but ran into a few issues when cleaning up after the slicing.  I discovered that, if a sliced document is edited, it doesn’t automatically update the original tiddlers, which means I either need to edit them individually or re-slice the text.  I'm worried about the eventual file bloat (and possible tiddler chaos) that would occur from re-slicing over and over without removing the previous sliced tiddlers. 

  • Any way to mass delete a bunch of tiddlers at once? (Removing old narrative tiddlers one-by-one was time consuming and tedious)

 

  • According to Text Slicer instructions, the tiddlers generated by the slicing have automatically created titles that can be changed manually. Hundreds of tiddlers were created from the first six chapters alone - there are a couple hundred chapters left to do...do I have to rename and individually tag every single tiddler or is there a way to mass tag a lot of tiddlers at once (i.e. mass tag all "heading 2" tiddlers as "scene")? 


At this point, I’m thinking perhaps TextSlicer is better for text that does not undergo much editing (unlike my novels)? Would it be more efficient to manually create “scene” tiddlers and work with much smaller chunks of text rather than importing entire books? 

 

Thank you in advance for your help!

Alex Hough

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Nov 20, 2017, 5:05:46 AM11/20/17
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This might be something that works for you. I made it quickly as a way to add and delete tags. 
You can remove and add tags.

I add tags then filter them. you could add a tag to the ones you want to keep then export them to a new copy of TW





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Nov 20, 2017, 6:55:41 AM11/20/17
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Ciao elar...

Its an interesting post with interesting questions. There are several themes in it. I'll focus here on  BULK PROCEDURES ...

1 - Bulk Deletion ... There are some bulk deleters. BTW, TW has an inbuilt mechanism in recent TW5s to do that. Its accessible via Advanced Search > Filter ...


2 - Bulk Tagery ... There are several tools around for this. AlexHough made one mentioned in this thread.

3 - TextSlicer ... its pretty good but its a fairly crude instrument. Its also a "one-way-ticket." The way you are working... from external text to repeated slices doesn't sound optimal with so much manual work after slice.

4 - Bundling - You might want to look at PMario's "Bundler" that is a way of tracking Tiddlers, a way of exporting them and a way of recording imports. If you use the "Filtered Bundles" that is the same filter you'd use for bulk deleting so you could just copy the filter over to (1) when you needed to delete. That way if each work had a "bundle" you could delete its component tiddlers before another "re-slice". https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/bundler/

Given the scale of what you are trying to do, though, I'm not quite sure you are using an optimal working method. You might be better editing in TW directly? Possible?

Just some thoughts
Josiah
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elar...@gmail.com

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Nov 21, 2017, 1:31:15 PM11/21/17
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Thank you both for the replies and suggestions - I will definitely check these out!  I have pretty much come to the same conclusion about manually adding the text to TiddlyWiki and so had to revert to an earlier save.  I think it will work better in the end, though. 

TonyM

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Nov 21, 2017, 6:24:39 PM11/21/17
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Can I suggest that building a button, with a list that selects the desired tiddlers and actions (Tag Delete etc...) is a useful skill to develop so you can throw together a tool to action large sets of tiddlers.

Since the filters can be quite sophisticated you can bulk action almost anything.

Regards
Tony
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