FCKEditor Problem

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bluespire

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Apr 10, 2008, 7:45:10 PM4/10/08
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I have searched and searched, and nothing comes up regarding my
specific problem with FCKEditor for TiddlyWiki. My problem is this:

I downloaded the latest TiddlyWiki from the main website 2.3.0. I
downloaded the latest FCKEditor 2.6 from fckeditor.net, and the latest
plugin from visualtw.ouvaton.org. Now, I installed everything
properly, because I do get the WYSISYG link at the top of each
tiddler. When I click on it the FCKEditor does show, BUT all the text
that was in the tiddler main body is missing, AND it's not even
editable. In addition, once I close the editor (after not being able
to do anything with it), the original text come back. I click the
WYSIWYG link again, FCKEditor doesn't even show, even though the main
body is still void of text and un-editable. I can still edit tiddlers
the traditional way by double-clicking on them and editing the HTML.
Another problem with the editor is this, when it is showing, I can
click on any button (they don't work though) and if I click one that
bring up a pop-up, I cannot say OK to it, and if I close it, the
TiddlyWiki just maintains the light gray effect and I have to reload
the page to get rid of it.

Please, tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have tried different browser,
and an older TiddlyWiki. I would note that the FCKEditor Demo on the
visualtw.ouvaton.org is BROKEN. Basically, every time one opens the
editor, it mangles the coding, causing formatting errors and broken
links. The FCKEditor Demo on fckeditor.net is NOT broken, and works
perfectly.

P.S. I am using Firefox 2 or 3beta5 (at any given time).

-Steve

bluespire

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Apr 12, 2008, 9:02:03 PM4/12/08
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Bump!

wolfgang

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Apr 13, 2008, 4:21:45 AM4/13/08
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Hi bluespire,

my working copy of WygiwygPlugin and FCKEditor is still working with
the latest version of TW.

So I guess it very likely your difficulty could be caused by the
latest fckeditor version? - Does it work with an older version of
fckeditor?

Regards,

W.

bluespire

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Apr 13, 2008, 2:28:29 PM4/13/08
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I just tried using v2.5 of FCKeditor (was using v2.6), and it is still
broken. Also, if it is working properly, then why is the demo broken
on the website?

wolfgang

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Apr 13, 2008, 3:09:58 PM4/13/08
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Hi bluespire,

You must be talking about a different demo, because the original one
is working perfectly for me with FF too:

http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html#WysiwygDemo

Regards,

W.

bluespire

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Apr 13, 2008, 6:48:35 PM4/13/08
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Alright, as proof of what I am seeing, I have made screen shots of
what happens when I go to the website in the previous post. I would
post them here, but I don't think I can. They are posted at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/broken.eclipse/FCKEditor

I hope this helps. Basically, FCKEditor mangles the source code of the
tiddly, even if the only thing done is to press "Done".

wolfgang

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Apr 13, 2008, 7:45:58 PM4/13/08
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Hi bluespire,

if you edit TiddlyWiki syntax - even the javascript code of
WysiwygPlugin itself - I am not surprissed that you get such a
mess ;-) Because these tiddlers aren't formated in html syntax. And
FCKeditor knows nothing to do with TiddlyWiki's own formatting syntax
- other then messing it up.

With wysiwyg you can edit html formated tiddlers (that are tiddlers
within <html> ...some content... </html> delimiters. And you can
create new tiddlers formated with html. You can't convert TiddlyWiki
source syntax into html.with WysiwygPlugin. - All what you could do
would be to copy the content of a tiddler in VIEW mode, and paste it
into an empty wysiwyg Edit box. And then format it with the tools of
fckeditor according to your wish.

Regards,

W.

wolfgang

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Apr 13, 2008, 7:59:00 PM4/13/08
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In other words, at VisualTW you can only edit new tiddlers - or the
tiddler titled 'WysiwygDemo' - by clicking 'wysiwyg' in the toolbar
(and not the link to 'FCKeditorPlugin' in its text!). If you open this
'WysiwygDemo' tiddler (only) with the ordinary 'edit' in the toolbar -
you thereby could see the <html> ... </html> delimiters I was talking
about.

W.

bluespire

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Apr 13, 2008, 9:34:49 PM4/13/08
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OK, I think I misunderstood the Demo page. I was thinking that page
was holding th links to the Demo page (and I thought the plugin page
was the Demo page). I apologize for that error. I was going through
and systematically documenting what I did (with pics) to install, and
now I seem to have it working. Knowing now that FCKEditor
automatically Prepends and appends html code, as well as removes white
space from a tiddly, was a huge help in understanding the plug-in. In
other words, one must "handle with care" not to use it on system or
built in tiddlers. I tested the editor again with new tiddlers and
found that it does indeed work. However, I found that previously, I
was testing the editor on a blank tiddler (no text in body, but New
Tiddler for the name) and that is when the editor seemed to lock up
and not respond. I tried that test again today, at it worked! I'm not
sure what I did wrong earlier, but it works now. So, I must remember
to only make NEW tiddlers with this plug-in.

On another note, how, exactly, is the standard editing formatted in?
Is it a custom syntax know to TiddlyWiki? Is is javascript?

Again, my apologies about this situation.

wolfgang

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Apr 14, 2008, 4:26:02 AM4/14/08
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Hi bluespire,

nothing to apologies. I guess in the beginning we all were in a
situation with TiddlyWiki where we didn't knew, "what the hell they
are talking about?"

And you made it really easy for me - with the screenshots - to find
the reason why it wouldn't work for you.

Here a link to the original TiddlyWiki site and the tiddler explaining
TiddlyWiki standard formatting - and links to further help sites:

http://www.tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted%20ExtendedFormatting

Only in tiddlers tagged with systemConfig you will find Javascript,
and sometimes in those tagged with 'script' too. Except of importing
such tiddlers, you better don't edit these tiddlers unless you know
what you do.

kind regards,

W.

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

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Apr 14, 2008, 8:00:18 PM4/14/08
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Was it really necessary to call it FCKEditor? I blush and cover my
laptop monitor every time I check my RSS feed for this group now...

Dave

Eric Shulman

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Apr 14, 2008, 8:25:31 PM4/14/08
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> Was it really necessary to call it FCKEditor? I blush and cover my
> laptop monitor every time I check my RSS feed for this group now...

FCK stands for "Frederico Caldeira Knabben", the author of FCKEditor.

http://www.FredCK.com

-e
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