Embed wiki into Microsoft Teams (BOB)

Stobot

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Aug 12, 2020, 10:45:55 AM8/12/20

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Hello folks,

I'm trying to embed a wiki into Microsoft Teams and am stuck. Teams only allows http:// addresses and I'm using BOB which is served via local ip address like 10.1.#.#:8080. I thought I could get away with this if I made a near-empty .aspx file (I have access to host files on SharePoint) and then iframe the wiki in that way - but maybe you can't iframe in an address like BOB provides either? Any thoughts?

What I hoped would work - saved as a .aspx file, tried in FireFox

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<body>
<iframe src="10.1.135.98:8080" style="border:none;" title="BOB Test"></iframe>
</body>
</html>

TW Tones

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Aug 12, 2020, 6:30:00 PM8/12/20

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Stobot,

I have only installed single file wikis as aspx files on top of sharepoint, which is what teams is built on. The only way I know of to get a node server running in the Microsoft cloud would be to have it hosted inside the Microsoft azure CPU and Processing (like amazon hosting services). Specifically with node.

Once you have a single file wiki working and saving on SharePoint you should be able to iframe it as you can elsewhere.

Arguably you could use a synchronised one drive with your desktop/file server to store the the node tiddlywiki's but you still need a computer running the node server to serve the URL.

Happy to discuss further.

Tones

Ste

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Aug 12, 2020, 8:19:35 PM8/12/20

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I know this answer kind of ignores the way your working with BOB but I'm just hosting single file wikis from Dropbox (droppages.com) (https!) and then inserting it into teams as a web page tab. I'm sure there must be a better way.

Stobot

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Aug 13, 2020, 6:13:42 AM8/13/20

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Thanks for the feedback so far guys, but it sounds like I emphasized the wrong thing here. Single file TiddlyWiki works out of the box in Teams or otherwise with no problem using the SharePoint ASPX thing - I probably shouldn't have mentioned ASPX as I probably turned off part of the audience that could help. That's pretty cool and lets you replace the built-in Wiki that Teams provides (which is terrible) with a TiddlyWiki.

My problem is only that I have my whole team using a Wiki using BOB for it's simultaneous co-editing experience as our primary project management software, and it isn't exposed as a http: address. So I'm not looking to host it a different way than I am (I just set aside a dedicated computer on our local network to run BOB), but I need to "trick" Teams by giving it a url starting with http: I mentioned SharePoint because I know I can put any file on SharePoint and have access to it via a http: address, so my thought was to fake a .html file that solely contained an iframe to the 10.1.#.#:8080 address as a kind of hack to bypass Team's url filter. Unfortunately web stuff and networking is probably my weakest area of knowledge.

I guess in thinking through it, this is more a question of how <iframe> works, if it can be given a src="10.1.#.#:8080" type address (so far it appears no?) or if there are any similar ideas on how to make that work.

Thanks!

Jed Carty

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Aug 17, 2020, 4:56:56 AM8/17/20

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I think that Bob will have trouble running in an Iframe because it tries to use the browsers current URL to determine the URL it needs to use to establish the websocket connection it uses.

I know pretty much nothing about how Microsoft Teams works, so how did your example fail?

I would expect it to load a wiki but never be able to make a websocket connection to the server.

Also, did you try adding http:// to the url so it would be src="http://10.1.135.98:8080"? That can be important.

There is probably a way to make Bob work correctly inside an iframe, but I would have to do some research to find it. I doubt I will get to that any time soon.

JD

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Aug 19, 2020, 11:07:23 PM8/19/20

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Hi Ste, I maybe hijacking this thread but I'd like to confirm before I invest time in it. Will saving work in a wiki hosted by droppages, when I insert it into Teams?

-jd

Ste

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Aug 20, 2020, 4:51:52 PM8/20/20

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No. It throws up a RSofE so it's view only.

TW Tones

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Aug 20, 2020, 7:40:27 PM8/20/20

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Ste,

Using a new sharepoint Wikipage library, I load a wiki with the .aspx extension, I then enforced checkout on the wikifile (Whole of library setting) and only the one person who has it checked out can save. This method permits serial editing, one editor after another.

I chose a Wikipage library because office 365 favours documents in such libraries and loads them faster (anecdotal evidence) as they need to load to interact like any webpage.

Regards

Tony

JD

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Aug 20, 2020, 7:50:09 PM8/20/20

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Aww shucks. Teams' native wiki app is so lackluster :(

TW Tones

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Aug 20, 2020, 7:54:07 PM8/20/20

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The Wiki app is only the platform for the tiddlywiki file , once the file is there I share the link only.

Regards

Tones

Ste

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Aug 21, 2020, 4:36:17 AM8/21/20

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I shall investigate!

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