Semi-offtopic: Client for Google Groups?

[bimlas]

Hi,

I would like to use Google Groups in an external client because the threads are not clearly displayed (it is not clear which message belongs to the thread), but I can not set Thuderbird because I can not add the Google Groups mailing lists to it.

Does anyone use external software for the "forum"? If so, could you give me a description of the program setup so I can access the Tiddly group through it?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bimlas

It’s not quite the same, but I read the TW Google Groups via email. I can then access them online and offline using whatever email client I want.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[bimlas]

Thanks Jeremy,

Maybe it's not perfect (cannot read older threads), but it's worth a try. :)

[TonyM]

Bimlas

I can see email as threads, are you not using the views at this address

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!forum/tiddlywiki

Have a look through the settings. No luck let me know.

Regards

[bimlas]

TonyM, this is how the desktop version looks like for me:

https://i.imgur.com/awBo1l4.png

The threads are not completely clear to me: it does not quite indicate which message is linked to another, this is why I like to use external mail list client.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

One simple reason why you won't get exact threading is that when folk reply they don't necessarily reply in strict thread order.

For instance, I quite often reply to the starting post even though I am also responding to sub-threads.

This happens because the way we respond here can't always be neat. Its more like you have a broad topic and replies may occur different places in threading.

Best wishes

Josiah

[@TiddlyTweeter]

It might be worth experimenting with "news readers". I believe Thunderbird has one built in? Different newsreaders have different approaches to threading. It might be worth experimenting to see if one helps you locate relevant sub-threads more easily.

The newsfeeds for TW are listed here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/tiddlywiki

Best wishes

Josiah

bimlas wrote:

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

Attached is what I see, especially since you gave the above reply. 

I am not sure what is missing when you say "because the threads are not clearly displayed (it is not clear which message belongs to the thread), "

To me members of the thread is anything with the same "email subject", they all occur in time and flow down the page and under the messaged they replied to? Already read items are collapsed so you only see the first, unread (or stared items) open.

To me the Google Groups forum view leaves little to be desired. If you take account of what Josiah Said "replies may occur different places in threading" I personally don't see the need to jump to an alternate tool. I am happy to try and help you and everyone make the best use of the Google Groups.

Regards

Tony

[bimlas]

Maybe you're right, I'm trying to get acquainted with the Google interface because it's available anywhere without installation.

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

Because I have used it a long time this way, I can be sure what if any settings I chose. But with the attached image, notice that once you open a topic you can select from some views

Regards

Tony

[S. S.]

One possible way to format the thread is to select "Discussion" and "Chronological View"  and "Expand All" in that area referenced by TonyM's menu picture above. This way you don't miss the latest posts and can easily scroll up to see the full text of any of the older posts. One can usually figure out the "thread" flow, but if confused, temporarily revert to "Tree View."

Each time a thread is re-opened or refreshed, "Expand All" is reset and all the "read" posts collapse again. There is a shortcut key - pressing the "o" key a few times  will expand all the posts.

[bimlas]

Thanks for the tips, it's seems to be enough in most of the cases.

By discovering the hot keys, I realized that I can star messages (sign of "TODO", "pin", etc.), and I can look at the list by `gs`.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I suddenly realised that likely many users are not aware of the Google Groups shortcuts! They are well worth knowing if you read the group regularly online .

https://support.google.com/groups/answer/6148722?hl=en

[Mohammad]

Josiah,

 You may press ? and the shorcuts window pop ups!

/Mohammad