Very Basic Question before Using TW

[Dis/loc]

Hi all, I'm a complete n00b to TW, so I'm slowly wrapping my head around the philosophy and potential uses.

Apologies if these issues have been addressed elsewhere, but I wanted to ask this question before I invested too much time in it, in case my needs are best met with some other tool.

I'm imagining a website where twiddlies are bits of non-linear narrative, notes, quotes, etc. that can be explored in many different ways (links, tags) and, over time, build up to a more ordered, linked-up 'final draft' -- almost like a "process book" (in art-speak). This idea seems like its a perfect fit for TW's non-linear/"Story River" functionality. But what I don't understand is what happens after a TW (e.g. "empty.html") is uploaded to a webhost. Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all "backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.

And if this is possible, how would subsequent edits be made? Would I have to re-upload the whole "empty.html" each time? 

Is there a combination of plugins and themes that would allow me to do both things: hide all "admin" or unnecessary tools so the visitor can focus on the content while also allowing me to make additions directly into the file already uploaded?

The closest thing I've seen to an answer is: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/IkT5EQFTBFY -- I'm just wondering if there's something that is more robust and intended for the usage I have in mind.

Thanks!

[David Gifford]

Hi Dis/loc

I will let others answer more fully, but to give you short answers, if you upload a single file TiddlyWiki, it is not affected by the temporary changes users make online in their web browsers. When they try to leave the page, they will see a message that they can't save their changes.

And yes, there are ways to hide most of the editing controls when the file is viewed online. When you want to change it, you make the changes offline and upload it again.

Hope that helps

Dave

[David Gifford]

Sorry, I forgot you had the other questions at the end after I started typing.

The link you provided is toTiddlyWiki classic, so that does not apply to TiddlyWiki5

There are ways to host TiddlyWikis online so that you can edit them. But I think that having it both ways (hiding editing controls AND editing online) is not an ideal route. More ideal would be having your editable version, on or offline, with the controls visible, in a separate location, then have a way to update the user friendly version from that.

Another way is via GitHub, so you edit the tiddlers in Github but viewers only see the finished product

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 5:38:21 AM UTC-5, Dis/loc wrote:

[ste...@gmail.com]

Hi,

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:38:21 PM UTC+2, Dis/loc wrote:

Can people still add or edit twiddlies? Is there a way to turn that off? In fact, it would be great if there's a way to hide all "backend" tools and just focus on the side bar and twiddlies. Is this possible? I haven't seen any examples that show this.

Maybe my "ToggleAdmin" Tiddler could help: http://stefct-resources.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleAdmin:ToggleAdmin%20%24%3A%2Ftools%2FToggleAdmin

Cheers,

Stef

 

[Dis/loc]

Thanks David! That makes a lot of sense.

[Dis/loc]

Thanks! I'll have a look.