[TW5] Auto scrolling list of tiddler

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magev958

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Apr 23, 2015, 6:38:43 AM4/23/15
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Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie?
I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D

PMario

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Apr 23, 2015, 7:12:10 AM4/23/15
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On Thursday, April 23, 2015 at 12:38:43 PM UTC+2, magev958 wrote:
Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie?
I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D

Hmmmm,

Depends, on what you understand as "fun" ;)

Let's say there is some text on every tiddler.
eg 3 lines and every line can be read and be understood in 3.3 seconds. 
That makes 10 seconds for every tiddler. ... -> 270.000 sec to read them all.

That is 4.500 minutes which is about 3 days. ... no breaks included.
So IMO your content needs to be extreamly important or cat images, to be fun ;)

.... Just the titles ...

Let's say 2 seconds for every title, is still 900 minutes.
So you can start the TW title show side by side with the "Star Wars" episodes. ... all of them.


... On the other hand I like the idea ;) ... It seems to be an animated - automated stacked view scrolling.
see: https://youtu.be/7tRvAj1ZG9s?t=1362

just my 2 cents
-mario

magev958

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Apr 24, 2015, 6:09:34 AM4/24/15
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Yes, it is totally unnecessary but just for fun. If you had a tiddler from top to bottom of the screen (~ 30 rows) with one title per row and a row disappear every 0.2 sec, it would still take 1.5 hours :)

Jeremy Ruston

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Apr 24, 2015, 6:53:37 AM4/24/15
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Hi Magev958

> Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie? I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D

Interesting. I've thought of something similar: a "screen saver" storyview that shows random tiddlers drifting across the screen, but lets you freeze the action by moving the mouse and clicking on a tiddler so that you can dive in and explore things that catch your interest. I was thinking that it might be a useful source of serendipity for creative stimulus purposes. I'd be hoping that we could make TiddlyDesktop hook into the OS as a true screensaver, too.

Here's an old sketch from 2011 of the storyview switcher for TiddlyWiki 5:




As you can see, I've been slowly making my through them - with the notable help of Felix Küppers who has implemented the "link charts" view.

Best wishes

Jeremy



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Felix Küppers

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Apr 24, 2015, 7:43:13 AM4/24/15
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> As you can see, I've been slowly making my through them - with the
> notable help of Felix Küppers who has implemented the "link charts" view.

Hehe, thanks :)

"Screensaver" and "Command Line" view - This completely proves that you
envisioned TiddlyWiki to become an operating system that runs in the
browser :)



Pit.W.

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Apr 24, 2015, 2:08:09 PM4/24/15
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magev958,

27000 tiddlers is an impressive number and I would assume that would cause some performance problems.

Could you share your experiences on what hampers the performance (speed) of a tiddlywiki, what improves it, and what are the "NoNos" which slow a TW down.
I assume, your giant TW is not a "standalone", but runs on a server like node or something similar?

What is the nature of the tiddlers - title onle? or text? or PDFs ? documents?

How did you create this enormous number of tiddlers,  by typing them by hand? TiddlyClip? or do you have an import-tool, like "save my giant excel sheet in one folder as .tid files" (ok, that was a joke, I assume this tool does not exist)

Does it make a difference if the  .tid files are in the "tiddlers" folder of the Node or in sub-folders? Does it make a difference if the tiddlers ar binary PDF-files? I muse about converting a document library of PDFs (more than 4 GB and growing) into a Node-based TW. I am running a dozen TWs as standalone, and one on Node.js and I wonder: could I merge them all, and if - how?

Maybe if you could find the time to share your knowledge... would be much appreciated.

Kindly

Pit.W




Am 23.04.2015 um 12:38 schrieb magev958:
Would it be possible to have a list of tiddler titles scroll from top to bottom like the after-text i a movie?
I have a big TW with some 27000 tiddler and it would be fun to show them all :D
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RichardWilliamSmith

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Apr 24, 2015, 5:08:18 PM4/24/15
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Hi Pit.W,

"do you have an import-tool, like "save my giant excel sheet in one folder as .tid files" (ok, that was a joke, I assume this tool does not exist)"

I did just that to import the old Testament into TiddlyWiki  :)


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Richard
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