Bibliographic References and TiddlyWiki5

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stevesuny

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Aug 22, 2015, 12:34:07 PM8/22/15
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Hello everyone,

I'm working on a project (a "text book" about hypertext using TiddlyWiki as a case study: more on that another day).

In the immediate term, I need to implement a robust bibliographic system in / parallel to TiddlyWiki5 (TW5).

I'm looking for something that is easy, universal and flexible (of course), and that would allow me to reference/create bibliographic objects/tiddlers using standard exports (including bibtex and others) from various databases  directly into TW5 using my tagging structure.  

I want to make references in my TW5 to my cited sources, and have the TW5 display nicely formatted references based on filters and lists, so that I could provide a list of references that includes those tagged as "reference" and "topic:hypertext theory" etc. 

I was wondering what folks are doing these days as they seek to do similar tasks. Most of the references to Tiddly* and biblio* are about TiddlyWiki Classic, and don't seem to address the unique features and capabilities of TW5. 

While I'm open to using an intermediate program for biblio references (like Zotero or JabRef), I would want something that allows me to reference individual items in that system based on tags or fields.

Any thoughts or suggestions or discussion would be most welcome.

Thanks,

//steve.

Jed Carty

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Aug 22, 2015, 1:56:59 PM8/22/15
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I made this for a similar purpose. Just like pretty much everything else I have made it should get a bit more polish. I hope it is helpful. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Steve Schneider

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Aug 22, 2015, 3:11:21 PM8/22/15
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Jed, I just checked your tiddlywiki site http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com. Very impressive, very cool, and I'll spend some time on it to fully see what you are doing.

Feeback on Citations Manager: looks excellent -- but what I'm trying to avoid is rekeying anything. So I think the key is to use bibtex.

Here's a description of a workflow I might want to employ:

1 > Use google scholar to search for "hypertext" resources in 2015 (results)
2 > Select an article or source of interest (Learning and navigating in hypertext: Navigational support by hierarchical menu or tag cloud?)
3 > Determine that it is worth adding to my biblio dbase, so generate citation. I think the most open standard would be bibtex. For example, from google scholar choosing "cite" and then "bibtex" provides Example A (below); from Elsevier choosing "export" and "bibtex with abstract" provides Example B (below).
4 > I'd like to paste either of those examples, or other bibtex and generate tiddlers that allow me to list / filter / search on bibtex fields (see http://www.openoffice.org/bibliographic/bibtex-defs.html).

Anyone have ideas about how to do that?

//steve.

Examples of bibtex code:



Example A:


@article{walhout2015learning,
  title={Learning and navigating in hypertext: Navigational support by hierarchical menu or tag cloud?},
  author={Walhout, Jaap and Brand-Gruwel, Saskia and Jarodzka, Halszka and van Dijk, Martin and de Groot, Renate and Kirschner, Paul A},
  journal={Computers in Human Behavior},
  volume={46},
  pages={218--227},
  year={2015},
  publisher={Elsevier}
}


Example B:

@article{Walhout2015218,
title = "Learning and navigating in hypertext: Navigational support by hierarchical menu or tag cloud? ",
journal = "Computers in Human Behavior ",
volume = "46",
number = "",
pages = "218 - 227",
year = "2015",
note = "",
issn = "0747-5632",
doi = "http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.chb.2015.01.025",
url = "http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563215000394",
author = "Jaap Walhout and Saskia Brand-Gruwel and Halszka Jarodzka and Martin van Dijk and Renate de Groot and Paul A. Kirschner",
keywords = "Hypertext learning",
keywords = "Navigation behavior",
keywords = "Gender differences",
keywords = "Eye tracking ",
abstract = "Abstract As hypertext learning environments (HLE) are widely used in education, it is important to study and know the effects and consequences of its use. \{HLEs\} are non-linear which means that students have to develop ways of navigating through them. Thus, developing interfaces that facilitate and even guide navigation is important for learning. Research showed that successful learning in \{HLEs\} depends on both learner characteristics and \{HLE\} features. This study investigated an \{HLE\} navigation feature (navigational support with either a tag-cloud or conventional hierarchical menu), task complexity (fact-finding vs. information-gathering task) and a user characteristic (gender). Results show that neither navigational support nor gender is associated with differences in task performance. However, there are differences in information processing. Participants using a tag clouds looked longer at the navigational support and shorter at the overview pages. Combined with fewer revisits of webpages in the tag cloud condition, this indicates a more focused selection of pages. The deeper processing of information needed for the information-gathering task was reflected in fewer visits to, but longer viewing times of pages. As no differences in task performance were found, tag clouds seem to be as effective for performance as more traditional navigation structures for navigational support. "
}




in this case,   My workflow is to discover a source, and then want to be able to cite it without keying in any info. I use google scholar, for example, to discover

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Jed Carty <inmy...@gmail.com> wrote:
I made this for a similar purpose. Just like pretty much everything else I have made it should get a bit more polish. I hope it is helpful. Any feedback would be appreciated.

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stevesuny

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Aug 22, 2015, 4:43:46 PM8/22/15
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Just found this thread from a 7 months ago:


which is a discussion of using Bibtex entry as source for tiddlywiki.

Also working on finding a json parser. Found (but haven't tested) this so far: https://www.npmjs.com/package/bibtex-parser as it is beyond my tech skills (looks command line-driven and i tend to stay at the mac os x interface for the most part, and certainly my students will need to do that...).

//steve.
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