Check out my new TiddlyWiki...

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi all,

You might get ideas from this TiddlyWiki I created to organize the
notes I want to share with others. It is called the NoteStorm
Christian database. For the moment it is mostly New Testament
information (since I teach that subject).

http://www.giffmex.org/nsdb.html

Tips:
1. Play with the random button for a while
2. See the last 100 database entries modified (as opposed to the last
100 tiddlers modified)
3. Note the color coordinated tables - green for literary aspects,
blue for structure, orange for themes, etc.
4. Gotta love my bullets...
5. The topic with the most content currently is New Testament --> The
Gospel of John

Dave

[Måns]

Hi Dave

This is GREAT work - I LOVE IT :-)

Thanks a lot for sharing it!!

Congratulations!

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

On 15 Sep., 20:51, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[passingby]

Dave Sir, you do the best thing with tiddlywikis: create great documents with great contents in a simple yet uniquely and creatively organized way.

[Eric Weir]

On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:

> You might get ideas from this TiddlyWiki I created to organize the
> notes I want to share with others. It is called the NoteStorm
> Christian database. For the moment it is mostly New Testament
> information (since I teach that subject).
>
> http://www.giffmex.org/nsdb.html

I like the way you get the "machinery" out of the way and put the focus on content.

Do you see NoteStorm as primarily a presentation device or as supporting thinking/composing/organizing/problem solving? E.g., do you see it as having advantages over other implementations of TiddlyWiki for the latter?

Regards,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
eew...@bellsouth.net

"Human coexistence and social life constitute the good common to us all
from which and thanks to which all cultural and social goods derive." - Zygmunt Bauman

[Tony Baldwin]

The content doesn't strike me as particulary of interest (I'm an atheist, sorry),
but, I have to say, Dave, I LOVE the look of this site!
Did you create the theme here?
If so, will/have you made/make it available to others?
If not, where did you find it?

thanks,
tony

[Jeremy Ruston]

Dave, this is indeed a remarkably cool and clean creation, I'm very impressed.

I have in the past used religious study TiddlyWiki similar to this
when I'm demonstrating TiddlyWiki to new people. Regardless of their
own religious affiliation, it seems that people recognise that the
material is complex and deeply intertwingled, and can readily see that
TiddlyWiki allows a level of flexibility and structure that would be
hard to replicate in, say, Excel.

I'll add this to my demo roster. I'd be interested to understand the
extent to which TiddlyWiki helps you with the actual
analysis/thinking/reflection process? Do you find that the act of
committing information to TiddlyWiki helps you to understand and
appreciate it? The "random" link looks like a great way to trigger
serendipity; have you gained any fresh religious insights from using
it, if I can put it that way?

I was also interested if you saw any interesting possibilities with
group collaboration on this kind of material?

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[David Gifford]

Hi everyone, thanks for the kind words. Here are my comments and
responses:

@Eric: I suppose I created a bit of confusion here by using the term
NoteStorm. I originally used the name NoteStorm for a template
TiddlyWiki I created about 3 years ago for note-taking. This Christian
database is not in any way related to that note-taking TW. In fact, I
really lost interest in Treeview menus, because they force the user to
organize things alphabetically, which isn't always the best way to go.
But I use the name NoteStorm on slideshare.net and in other contexts,
so I decided to use it here too. It sounds better than Giffmex, my
usual Internet moniker. And besides, should I ever leave Mexico
(hopefully not any time soon), GiffMEX might not be the best name
anymore. Anyway, I see TW in general as a wonderful way to organize /
collate / find again my notes on complex subjects, and then the
present file as a way to present that to others. It's a heck of a lot
quicker than Wordpress for the tables and formatting, and
hyperlinking. The main drawback to this as opposed to Wordpress will
eventually be size. If this were ever to take off and a lot of people
were accessing it, the bandwidth might be an issue. Not an issue with
Wordpress where people only open one page at a time. Maybe I will
eventually need to have it hosted by someone who doesn't worry about
bandwidth restrictions.

I have toyed with the idea of having a download and update process
where the user downloads a copy and manually updates it with one click
upon reopening it. But I am not sure what legal issues that entails -
people changing content of local copies and then claiming I made those
changes, etc. And I haven't always got the upload and update plugin to
work right. So for now it is on the backburner.

@Tony: I created the theme myself, as an amalgamation of features from
my numerous previous attempts at organizing data in TW. I am happy
with others using it the layout as they wish. Feel free to copy the
tiddlers tagged with the systemConfig and script tags, the tiddlers in
the Shadow menu, and also Story Menu, Welcome to the NoteStorm
Christian database, and zzConfigOptions. Then change the title and the
tabs in the Welcome to the NoteStorm Christian database tiddler, and
make the title of the new tiddler your DefaultTiddler. I think that is
all that should be necessary.

@Jeremy: Thanks for your kind words 'from the top'! Working with
TiddlyWiki as a way of presenting material has forced me to think a
lot about screen real estate, and I have experimented with more ways
of reconfiguring the pagetemplate, mainmenu and front page than I care
to admit. The cool thing is that TW gives me the flexibility to do
that in many different ways. It is interesting to note that while over
the years I got all excited about Monkeytagging, Treeview menus, using
ForEachTiddler lists for organizing material, etc, I have come to the
conclusion that the original way is still the best: hand create links
with brackets and order them the way I want, the way my brain finds it
best to organize them.

I don't know if TiddlyWiki helps me in my thinking process so much as
it doesn't get in the way of my thinking processes. It lets me
organize things the way I want to, and quickly, and adjust the look as
necessary with StyleSheet. I have always liked having one document or
entry either be an index of some topic or be a short entry on that
topic - a paragraph, a table or a list. TiddlyWiki makes that really
easy to do, and offers various ways of organizing the material into
hierarchies so that you can find it again later. And the search is
lightning fast. I read somewhere here on this group that people were
saying goodbye to TiddlyWiki, that it was over and done with. I
thought, What are you talking about? Not for me. I would say the only
drawbacks for me with regard to TiddlyWiki:
1) Table creating and editing can be cumbersome compared to, say,
Word. And as you can see I do a lot with tables.
2) The fear that someday Internet browsers will transform in such a
way that renders TiddlyWiki inert. That happens, I am in trouble! I
will have a lot of material to move to another format.
3) Not knowing what people with older browsers on other OS's are
looking at when they open it: are they getting alerts about cookies
and Java that I don't get? Does the layout look like crap because the
CSS renders differently or because their screen is smaller? I usually
go to the mall and look at new TiddlyWikis I create on an iPad at the
Mac store to see how they turned out (I use a Windows 7 laptop with a
huge screen).

The random button is a brand new thing for me, and is more to give
newcomers an idea of what is on the file that they might overlook. It
is like using StumbleUpon (a personal vice of mine) within the file.
Using it to trigger serendipity and make previously unforeseen
connections between ideas is a great thought, one I will have to play
with in the future.

RE: Group collaboration - I confess I don't do much of that, so I
don't have much to say about it. On a somewhat related topic, I really
enjoy getting comments on my Wordpress site, and that is something I
would miss with this way of presenting the materials, unless someone
shows me that they are using TW for comment threads and what the pros
and cons are.

Random observations:
1. I still think doing a search in a TiddlyWiki should call up a list
rather than open a bunch of tiddlers, which is confusing. A search
results list should be standard for TiddlyWiki.
2. As you can imagine, this project is so huge and will always have
big gaps. So how do you make it so that people can see quickly what
you have added? A big thanks to Eric at TiddlyTools for his help in
explaining how to use gettagcount. That was a big recent breakthrough
for me.
3. The vertical tabs used are an adaptation of the ones from
TiddlySpot, with different CSS and other tweaks. I really liked the
look of the TiddlySpot vertical tabs when I first saw them, and still
do. Tabbed menus were always frustrating to me though, because I could
see the content but couldn't edit it unless I could remember the name
of the tiddler with the content. That was until a while back when I
hit on the idea of having an @ link at the top of the tab contents to
open the tiddler.

Well, this went longer than I expected it to. But I thought all your
kind comments and your questions deserved an adequate response.
Blessings to all of you,

Dave Gifford

[Scott Kingery]

Dave, this is very cool. I'm jumping back into the TiddlyWiki
community as I am going to be taking a class and am thinking about
class notes. Love the layout you have designed here.

On Sep 15, 11:51 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[iain]

I suppose I should comment that when I clicked the fun stuff Tiddler
there was nothing there! Typical low church (LOL) we Anglicans are
allowed to have a bit of fun (so long as it is in the Bible).

I have used your TW's as a basis for my own attempts at data
orgnaisiation (Model Trains I am afraid). I agree with comments about
the way TW interacts with your thinking process, it helps organise
mine but the TW does structure thoughts due to it's inherent
limitations. I also am a buit concerned that the whole TW scene is
going into the cloud leaving nothing for us who are inherently
suspicious of clound computing and its long term security/survival.

Cheers

Iain

[passingby]

Is it possible to download an empty one for a similar use?

[David Gifford]

@Scott: welcome back!

@iain: you crack me up! Actually I have a huge TiddlyWiki with fun and
other personal stuff like artwork, photos, humor, recipes, travel
info, etc. I just haven't had time to think about what fun stuff to
share with the world in the file we are talking about in this thread.
This is a fun photo of me, taken yesterday:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/giffmex/6160483439/in/photostream

As for the 'whole TW scene going into the cloud', that is news to me.
It seems more like there are two ways to do TiddlyWiki, one way is to
download and use on your computer, and the other is to have it hosted
at places like TiddlySpot.

@passingby and for everyone else: here is the link to a customizable,
empty version of the NoteStorm Christian database. http://giffmex.org/nsctw.html.
I added QuickEdit toolbar for editing, and added the TiddlersBar so
that you can navigate between open tiddlers using the tabs. Note that
in QuickEdit I also added an iframe creator so that if you put a
webpage link into a tiddler, you can quickly wrap it with the code to
turn it into an iframe.

Dave

[Alex Hough]

That's it....
I am a believer

thanks Dave

ALex

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[passingby]

Thanks a lot for this!

[David Gifford]

I made some changes to the file mentioned in this thread (http://
giffmex.org/nsdb.html), and thought I would mention it here, since
some of you helped me graciously with these changes.

Where before the file was a simple database of lists, charts,
articles, etc, now it is a database of brief facts and quotes. If you
use the random button, the tiddlers for a fact or quote will open with
large print and lots of white space. Functions kind of like the
Amazing Fact Generator at Mental Floss.

If you navigate the topical indexes, the short facts and quotes appear
as bullet point lists, organized by topic. These bullet point lists
can be accessed from within the short fact tiddler via the tagging
box, which, thanks to help from people here, displays a link to that
tiddler.

If there are longer bits like charts, lists and articles, they are
accessed via links from the short snippets. The random button no
longer calls the longer items up.

I also added a tag cloud of the topics for the short facts and quotes.

Thanks to everyone for your help.

Dave