How to easily edit transcluded text?

[kat]

I have a bunch of tiddlers in my wiki that contain transcluded text from other tiddlers.

I keep finding myself going to edit a tiddler, realizing the text is transcluded from another tiddler, then having to then search for that tiddler to edit the original transcluded tiddler.

This is getting kind of frustrating so I wondered if there was a good solution that would make it easy to see in a non-invasive way that a tiddler contains transclusions, and then easily edit the transcluded tiddler without lots of awkward searching/jumping around?

thanks!

[Aidan Grey]

Dont you just open the tiddler, see what was handcuffed, and go directly t to that tiddler? Im confused how it could be difficult.

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[kat]

It's not difficult, just inconvenient.

I have to open edit mode, close it, search for another tiddler, then edit that tiddler. It's fine on occasion but I keep running into this situation so I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for how to streamline this process.

On Monday, August 19, 2019 at 12:37:58 AM UTC+1, Aidan Grey wrote:

Dont you just open the tiddler, see what was handcuffed, and go directly t to that tiddler? Im confused how it could be difficult.

On Sun, Aug 18, 2019, 5:11 PM kat, <ededs...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a bunch of tiddlers in my wiki that contain transcluded text from other tiddlers.

I keep finding myself going to edit a tiddler, realizing the text is transcluded from another tiddler, then having to then search for that tiddler to edit the original transcluded tiddler.

This is getting kind of frustrating so I wondered if there was a good solution that would make it easy to see in a non-invasive way that a tiddler contains transclusions, and then easily edit the transcluded tiddler without lots of awkward searching/jumping around?

thanks!

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[TonyM]

Kat

There are some smart ways to address this but the quick and easy is [[edit|tiddlername]] at bottom of each of the tiddlers you may edit.

This could be moved into a macro which responds to a toggle to hide or display.

Regards
Tony

[Mark S.]

One way is to to add a template to the transclusion.

So, if you make a tiddler "ta" (for Template A) with the following contents:

{{!!text}} <$link to=<<currentTiddler>>>{{!!title}}</$link>

then in your transclusions you add a template. Like

{{My tiddler with this text||ta}}

Now a link will appear next to the transcluded text. So when you want to find and edit the text, it's only a click away.

Or your template could look like this:

{{!!text}} <$button>Edit<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler" $param=<<currentTiddler>>/></$button>

This will create an actual button that will immediately open up the corresponding tiddler for editing when clicked.

Good luck!

[CJ Veniot]

G'day,

I use transclusion heavily, and have gotten into the habit of doing this kind of thing ...

In tiddler "A" that transcludes tiddler "B":

! [[B]]
{{B}}

Cheers !

[Diego Mesa]

Kat,

The great Tobias Beer has the "inc" plugin (which I have not tried yet in 5.1.20):

https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#inc

That solves this exact problem.

[kat]

Thanks Diego that is perfect and does indeed solve my exact problem.

Tony,

Thanks for your reply. What are some of the other smart ways to address this?

Thanks again.

[Birthe C]

Hi Kat,

I tried in my wiki version 5.1.20 and it worked.

You have to use it in the tiddler trancluding the other tiddlers. I understood you had a lot of those tiddlers so that will quite some work.

Birthe

[TonyM]

Kat,

Thanks for your reply. What are some of the other smart ways to address this?

You describe your current wiki as containing

I have a bunch of tiddlers in my wiki that contain transcluded text from other tiddlers.

If you look at the way you manage and use these transcluded tiddlers there are a lot of alternate ways to manage them. 

• The way you name transcluded tiddlers could be via a macro in which you can show or hide an edit button
  
• It is also possible to search for transclusions and list them at the bottom of a tiddler as links, 
• You could simply name all transclusions in tiddler fields and list these as links
• Your could tag each transcluded tiddler with the current one (as the excise tool does)
• Your could make a custom EditorToolbar button to facilitate this

Regards

Tony