[TW5] Menus a missing TW feature?

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TonyM

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Jan 9, 2018, 7:41:48 PM1/9/18
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Folks,

Just brainstorming some work I want to do with Tiddlywiki, I like building generic solutions we can share, which support a rapid development environment in tiddlywiki.

It seems to me that one missing feature in TiddlyWiki is menus, whilst we can make them with code and tweeking and "lists and tabs" resemble Menus, there is no generic menus in tiddlywiki except in the responsive solutions I have seen.
Menus are perhaps more important when building solutions for flyby users who consume the tiddlywiki rather than learn what tiddlywiki is, but they can also be space saving shortcuts for advanced users.

If you can let me know about any prior-art (existing designs and solutions) or discussions I would appreciate it. 

Also please voice your interest and requirements. Please keep focused on menus in this thread.

Tony

Diego Mesa

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Jan 9, 2018, 7:55:39 PM1/9/18
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Tony,

I think this is a great idea! I will help in anyway I can!

Diego

TonyM

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Jan 9, 2018, 8:32:30 PM1/9/18
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Diego,

Thanks for your support.

How would you like to represent menu information?

I am still in brainstorming mode, what ideas or needs do you see?

Tony

BurningTreeC

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Jan 9, 2018, 10:50:10 PM1/9/18
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I made this Triddler concept once,

this is just a prototype and not fully working

TonyM

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Jan 10, 2018, 12:48:43 AM1/10/18
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BurningTree

Looks like some techniques we can use, How do you see this as supporting a menus concept?

Regards
Tony


BurningTreeC

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Jan 10, 2018, 4:57:42 AM1/10/18
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Am Mittwoch, 10. Januar 2018 06:48:43 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
BurningTree

Looks like some techniques we can use, How do you see this as supporting a menus concept?

I guess I misunderstood what you mean with menu concept.
I was thinking about easier handling of common tasks
just ignore me if I got it wrong

Regards
Tony

all the best,
Simon 

@TiddlyTweeter

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Jan 10, 2018, 5:29:03 AM1/10/18
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Ciao TonyM

My take on this from the viewpoint of putting a TW on the web for a purpose. The normal sidebar is NOT a menu system for someone coming for your content in any normal sense. Crudely: It's for makers, not readers. It makes sense to have it when you selling TW per se. But its not useful if, for instance, you want to host a simple image gallery.

But there ARE lots of solutions already. The various TOC solutions. I guess what you getting at is more of an in-built way to do it? And a way that has an appropriate look and feel?

FWIW, I agree with Mat's philosophy on this issue: No UI for Public or Mobile. Things have moved on since he wrote that, but the general ideas still hold some merit. 

Best wishes
Josiah

TonyM

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Jan 31, 2018, 7:39:03 AM1/31/18
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Folks,


I am sure it will provide "easier handling of common tasks" as burning tree raised.

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Tony
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