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Jan
Jan 26, 2018, 5:30:53 PM1/26/18
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Hello,
I made a new button to save Tiddlywiki in the Presentation-Mode I
developped for turning Tiddlers into a slideshow.
I does not look like a TW but switches back into one when you quit the
presentation.
I would be happy to get some feedback for the concept demonstrated and
described in the presentation
Cheers Jan
I made a new button to save Tiddlywiki in the Presentation-Mode I
developped for turning Tiddlers into a slideshow.
I does not look like a TW but switches back into one when you quit the
presentation.
I would be happy to get some feedback for the concept demonstrated and
described in the presentation
Cheers Jan
Birthe C
Jan 26, 2018, 5:51:44 PM1/26/18
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Hi Jan,
I have seen your slideshow earlier on and liked it very much. Now following the link I get to a black page with very big white letters. The explanation stops with half high letters, but guess it is about mobiles. No button in sight, hovering or otherwise. This is from a small screen laptop running Linux Mint and Chromium browser. Earlier on you had a tool for setting the font size, but it was not visible now. Really closing the browser tab was all I could do.
Birthe
Jan
Jan 26, 2018, 7:09:32 PM1/26/18
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Hi Birthe,
thanks for testing...and sorry.
hovering to the bottom of the screen, the controls should appear...including a slider for the font-size.
If this does not work I will have to fix it.
Yours Jan
thanks for testing...and sorry.
hovering to the bottom of the screen, the controls should appear...including a slider for the font-size.
If this does not work I will have to fix it.
Yours Jan
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Thomas Elmiger
Jan 27, 2018, 4:41:58 AM1/27/18
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Hallo Jan
very nice to see, how far you could take this! I had a short look at http://slidesnstories.tiddlyspot.com/#About – I hope this is still the right place. My thoughts:
- great to start directly in presentation mode
- the navigation panel works for me on FF 59 Dev Edition (Mac)
- arrows to go to next/prev are sometimes single < and > and sometimes double « and » – I am not able to see the logic in this
- keyboard seems to be switched off whenever I use a navigation button and I have to switch it on again
- the red font on dark background may be hard to read for some people
- would it be possible to use the < key to go one step back?
- styling of titles: they should be left aligned for me (I don't like irregular space – «Löcher» in German – between words)
I will keep an eye on this and test again when I have more time. The concept of the remote control is still fascinating me.
Herzliche Grüsse
Thomas
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Jan 27, 2018, 7:57:57 AM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
It has really moved on and is becoming really good!
I will study it more. Here is a my first issue: about text layout.
You use JUSTIFIED lines. In some conditions that is NOT good. LEFT aligned may be better across platforms and devices. Here is an example where it goes wrong ...
Best wishes
Josiah
It has really moved on and is becoming really good!
I will study it more. Here is a my first issue: about text layout.
You use JUSTIFIED lines. In some conditions that is NOT good. LEFT aligned may be better across platforms and devices. Here is an example where it goes wrong ...
Best wishes
Josiah
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Jan 27, 2018, 8:07:32 AM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
There is a problem with "activate the keyboard" on touch devices that have no physical keyboard (like Windows tablets). What happens is that you get an on-screen keyboard that then takes over a lot of the screen and ruins the presentation.
Its maybe not been in your thinking but SWIPE LEFT to bring on the next would likely work better. I have no idea how you could do that, not being a programmer myself. But maybe worth looking at for devices that only have on-screen keyboards.
Best wishes
Josiah
There is a problem with "activate the keyboard" on touch devices that have no physical keyboard (like Windows tablets). What happens is that you get an on-screen keyboard that then takes over a lot of the screen and ruins the presentation.
Its maybe not been in your thinking but SWIPE LEFT to bring on the next would likely work better. I have no idea how you could do that, not being a programmer myself. But maybe worth looking at for devices that only have on-screen keyboards.
Best wishes
Josiah
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Jan 27, 2018, 8:14:20 AM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
I'm UNCLEAR what the difference is between ">>" and ">" in the navigator?
Are they both needed?
Best wishes
Josiah
I'm UNCLEAR what the difference is between ">>" and ">" in the navigator?
Are they both needed?
Best wishes
Josiah
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Jan 27, 2018, 8:27:14 AM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
Regarding STARTING in Presentation Mode.
Absolutely right for the purpose.
IF I were using this to convey information I would NOT allow access to anything else in a published version. I think it works best as just a presentation--and nothing but a presentation.
No reader needs to know its a TW. That is not the aim. (Maybe this implies TWO versions? An Author version and a Published version?)
In other words, for a "Public Version", I think a way to configure it so you ONLY get a presentation and then an EXIT button. Nothing more. IMO its heightens its impact to do that.
Just thoughts.
Best wishes
Josiah
Regarding STARTING in Presentation Mode.
Absolutely right for the purpose.
IF I were using this to convey information I would NOT allow access to anything else in a published version. I think it works best as just a presentation--and nothing but a presentation.
No reader needs to know its a TW. That is not the aim. (Maybe this implies TWO versions? An Author version and a Published version?)
In other words, for a "Public Version", I think a way to configure it so you ONLY get a presentation and then an EXIT button. Nothing more. IMO its heightens its impact to do that.
Just thoughts.
Best wishes
Josiah
Jan
Jan 27, 2018, 11:50:25 AM1/27/18
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Hi Josiah,
there is a touch-mode for phones and a desktop-mode both triggerd by the screen-size. In the smartphone-mode the keyboard-activation is invisible. The whole keyboard-navigationis a workaround.
Swipe is a longdesired feature for me, Simon is working on an implementation of the hammer.js which should bring swipe. I hope he will succeed.
Yours Jan
there is a touch-mode for phones and a desktop-mode both triggerd by the screen-size. In the smartphone-mode the keyboard-activation is invisible. The whole keyboard-navigationis a workaround.
Swipe is a longdesired feature for me, Simon is working on an implementation of the hammer.js which should bring swipe. I hope he will succeed.
Yours Jan
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Jan 27, 2018, 12:23:09 PM1/27/18
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Jan wrote:
The whole keyboard-navigation is a workaround.
TBH, I think its more work than its worth. On Windows tablets without a physical keyboard its result is worse than you might know.
Josiah
Jan
Jan 27, 2018, 3:02:05 PM1/27/18
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Hi Josiah,
does the virtual keyboard appear when launching the slideshow?
For me the Keyboard is very practical because it allows me to speak more freely without moving the mouse to onscreen buttons.
I have experienced the keyboard does not work in Chrome, I do not know why this is so...
Yours Jan
does the virtual keyboard appear when launching the slideshow?
For me the Keyboard is very practical because it allows me to speak more freely without moving the mouse to onscreen buttons.
I have experienced the keyboard does not work in Chrome, I do not know why this is so...
Yours Jan
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Jan
Jan 27, 2018, 3:06:13 PM1/27/18
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Hi Josiah,
Hiding exit possibilities would be easy, I just fear locking up the TW in a way that you would have to repair it in a texteditor by accident, when this is not done carefully...
Hiding exit possibilities would be easy, I just fear locking up the TW in a way that you would have to repair it in a texteditor by accident, when this is not done carefully...
Jan
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| Betreff: | [tw] Re: Presenting the Presenter |
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| Datum: | Sat, 27 Jan 2018 05:27:13 -0800 (PST) |
| Von: | @TiddlyTweeter <tiddly...@assays.tv> |
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Jan
Jan 27, 2018, 3:14:04 PM1/27/18
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Hallo Thomas,
thanks for your considerations and also thanks Josiah who had tipps for styling.
I guess the best way will be creating the possibility to create a personal stylesheet which is injected into the TW.
As you see in the red slide it is even possible to create special styles for steps in the slideshow.
What do you think?
Jan
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thanks for your considerations and also thanks Josiah who had tipps for styling.
I guess the best way will be creating the possibility to create a personal stylesheet which is injected into the TW.
As you see in the red slide it is even possible to create special styles for steps in the slideshow.
What do you think?
Jan
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| Datum: | Sat, 27 Jan 2018 01:41:58 -0800 (PST) |
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| Von: | Thomas Elmiger <thomas....@gmail.com> |
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Jan 27, 2018, 3:29:31 PM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
On my windows 10 tablet the keyboard does NOT appear automatically.
Only if I click the keyboard option you give. In that sense its good design already.
My issue is that giving it as a clickable option it invokes an on-screen keyboard that spoils the display of the presentation, at least with the Windows tablet I use.
Best wishes
Josiah
On my windows 10 tablet the keyboard does NOT appear automatically.
Only if I click the keyboard option you give. In that sense its good design already.
My issue is that giving it as a clickable option it invokes an on-screen keyboard that spoils the display of the presentation, at least with the Windows tablet I use.
Best wishes
Josiah
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Jan 27, 2018, 4:18:31 PM1/27/18
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Ciao Jan
If you worried about getting locked out of your own work all you need do is have a RECOVERY address. Meaning you have a config Tiddler to switch OFF public access to TW. BUT its also an ADDRESS you can get back to REVERSE changes.
This thread about "Hider" is helpful in explaining the issues (its a bit of a mess but really does get to the heart of it): https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB&pli=1#!searchin/tiddlywiki/Hider/tiddlywiki/JeuinlhzMNU/ohi6hw6IAQAJ
Josiah
Jan wrote:
If you worried about getting locked out of your own work all you need do is have a RECOVERY address. Meaning you have a config Tiddler to switch OFF public access to TW. BUT its also an ADDRESS you can get back to REVERSE changes.
This thread about "Hider" is helpful in explaining the issues (its a bit of a mess but really does get to the heart of it): https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB&pli=1#!searchin/tiddlywiki/Hider/tiddlywiki/JeuinlhzMNU/ohi6hw6IAQAJ
Josiah
Jan wrote:
... I just fear locking up the TW in a way that you would have to repair it in a texteditor by accident, when this is not done carefully...
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