What Am I Missng?

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Ted Russ

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Dec 25, 2013, 1:52:43 AM12/25/13
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Recently decided it was time to bite the bullet and upgrade to TW5. It's been disappointing. I tried the upgrade path of dragging the old tiddliwik.html file onto a new one open in a browser window and saved that - it basically saved the same blank TW5 filei as before but with a new title. Also, none of the formatting was preserved in the on-screen version. So I tried opening the TW5 blank file and the TWC file in two browser instances and dragged a few tiddlers between them, then saved that. These at least had formatting while I was editing  but lost their links to each other. And again, only a blank TW5 was saved.  

I feel I must be doing something wrong, but I can't see what. Setup is Chrome on W8 (8.1?) fairly new laptop, old TWC file with about 50 tiddlers, no plug-ins other than the default ones as far as I'm aware. Am I missing something obvious?

Sean McVey

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Dec 26, 2013, 1:39:58 AM12/26/13
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I too am facing the same issue.  I'm using Firefox on a Windows 8 computer.  I thought I had all the plugins necessary to upgrade.  I did the online method that converted it to TW5.  It just opened everything up and anything under the [[Tiddly Name]] format doesn't work as a link anymore.  I wish I had a correction for you, but I'm stuck as well.

Jeremy Ruston

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Dec 26, 2013, 3:19:09 AM12/26/13
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Hi Ted, Sean,

As it says on tiddlywiki.com, the new version 5.0.x-beta isn't fully backwards compatible with TiddlyWiki Classic. Upgrading existing TiddlyWiki Classic documents to the new version isn't recommended yet. I'd suggest exploring the new version on a small project before attempting to upgrade.

As you've noted, tiddlers from TiddlyWiki Classic import as monospaced blocks. To get them to display as wikitext you need to flip the tiddler into edit mode, and change the type dropdown to "TW5 wikitext (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)".

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Sean McVey <sean.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
I too am facing the same issue.  I'm using Firefox on a Windows 8 computer.  I thought I had all the plugins necessary to upgrade.  I did the online method that converted it to TW5.  It just opened everything up and anything under the [[Tiddly Name]] format doesn't work as a link anymore.  I wish I had a correction for you, but I'm stuck as well.

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Dec 29, 2013, 12:58:26 PM12/29/13
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I've been lurking here occasionally and felt like something is missing too.


> Upgrading existing TiddlyWiki Classic documents to the new version isn't recommended yet.

Ah!  I suggest making this more explicit. Since TW5 is now what one sees on tiddlywiki.com users of Classic will likely jump first to the upgrade instructions thinking they can upgrade classic tiddlywiki; despite the note on the HelloThere tiddler. I know I did.  A note at the begining of the Upgrading tiddler that this applies to TW5 upgrades, a caution about thinking Classic TW can be upgraded, and perhaps a link to a a tiddler on what sorts of massaging existing Classic content will need (personally I use few plugins) would go a long way toward preventing disappointment.

Thanks for all the hard work; I've been a TiddlyWiki user since 2006 and look forward to the next 25 years.

Jeremy Ruston

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Dec 29, 2013, 6:05:48 PM12/29/13
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Ah!  I suggest making this more explicit. Since TW5 is now what one sees on tiddlywiki.com users of Classic will likely jump first to the upgrade instructions thinking they can upgrade classic tiddlywiki; despite the note on the HelloThere tiddler. I know I did.  A note at the begining of the Upgrading tiddler that this applies to TW5 upgrades, a caution about thinking Classic TW can be upgraded, and perhaps a link to a a tiddler on what sorts of massaging existing Classic content will need (personally I use few plugins) would go a long way toward preventing disappointment.


Thanks for all the hard work; I've been a TiddlyWiki user since 2006 and look forward to the next 25 years.

Much appreciated,

Best wishes

Jeremy
 

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