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David

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Jan 7, 2010, 1:08:02 PM1/7/10
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I am really finding TW useful in organizing my academic research for
my residency project and thinking forward to my dissertation. I have
checked out BibblyWiki and some other TW tools, but I think rolling my
own is going to be the best path. I have a few questions:

1. I have already figured out to add Extended Fields to my view and
edit templates, and have begun experimenting with FET to find tiddlers
based on those fields. I also have the plugin that lets me view
different templates based on tags. I have been following some of the
FET examples provided, and can set up something like this:

<<forEachTiddler
where
' store.getValue(tiddler,"author") == "Gardner" '
>>

I put this in a tiddler, open the tiddler, and the list of books by
Gardner shows up magically. But now if I want to search for books by
another author, or by some other field, I have to make a new tiddler
with those changes or edit this tiddler. Is there any way to create
some kind of search form where I select the field and enter the search
criteria and it gets passed to this tiddler macro so that I only need
one search tiddler for basic searches? Also, is there any way to
integrate searching on tiddler content and on extended fields at the
same time?


2. Wikipedia

I remembered Wikipedia has templates for making citations, that allow
you to enter the data in a structured but flexible way (fields are
optional), and the display is a well-formatted citation. Would there
be any way to do something similar in TW either with a macro/plugin or
with transclusion of tiddler slices?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CIT

Example wiki markup

{{Cite book
| last1 = Cordell | first1 = Bruce R.
| first2 = Jeff | last2 = Grubb
| first3 =David | last3 = Noonan
| title = [[Manual of the Planes]]
| location = Berlin
| publisher = [[Wizards of the Coast]]
| year= 2001
| pages = 198-203
| month = September
| isbn = 0-7869-1850-8 }}

Displyed result:

Cordell, Bruce R.; Grubb, Jeff; Noonan, David (September 2001). Manual
of the Planes. Berlin: Wizards of the Coast. pp. 198-203. ISBN
0-7869-1850-8.


3. context variable

I have seen a few references to the context variable, but I have not
found any doc that explains exactly what it is or how to use it. I'm
guessing it has something to do with div ids to either locate parts of
a tiddler, or the location of the tiddler in the display. Could
someone point me in the direction of a definition and an example of
use?

I guess that's enough questions for today. Thanks!

David

Mark

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Jan 7, 2010, 2:20:24 PM1/7/10
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Here's some options for question 1:

The YourSearchPlugin enables you to "search the extended fields
("Metadata") introduced with TiddlyWiki 2.1, e.g. use priority:1 to
find all tiddlers with the priority field set to "1"."

You could then serach: author:Gardner

To generate a list of all the books by Gardner

http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin


Eric's SearchOptionsPlugin provides more options:

"Adds extra options to core search function including selecting which
data items to search, enabling/disabling incremental key-by-key
searches, and generating a list of matching tiddlers instead of
immediately displaying all matches. This plugin also adds syntax for
rendering 'search links' within tiddler content to embed one-click
searches using pre-defined 'hard-coded' search terms."

http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SearchOptionsPlugin

mck

Alex Hough

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I'd use Zotero  to grab the citations: databases offering Endnote metadata imports into Zotero. They can be then dragged into TW or cut and pasted in your preferred format.

If I am not mistaken, the wikipedia citations added to each page by users also is available as Zotero data.

It would be great if there was a plugin which could add this data to TW. A kind of TiddlySnip for reference data

Alex

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Neil Olonoff

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Jan 7, 2010, 3:29:52 PM1/7/10
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Regarding snips and clips: There seems to be a general desire to convert records of various types from bibliographic tools into TiddlyWiki.

Is it possible to create a macro or upload script that like a "mail merge" that will upload records to Tiddlers from a delimited file.

I just laboriously uploaded content from my Kindle DX clippings.txt file which could easily have been converted to a delimited file using word, textwrangler, or whatever.

Just a thought.

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Alex Hough

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David,


ROLLING YOU OWN
=================
Have you tried MPTW? (http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/ ) The newHere command in the toolbar is good for working from a formal reference to shortened versions. You can soon see the effects in the advanced 'taggly tagging' section at the bottom of each tiddler.

I use it with YourSearch (Abegbo) and GoTo plugin (TiddlyTools)

ZOTERO - it is good give it a go, it could save you time tiddling
================================================

Personally I am convinced that a number of small tools working together in the browser is better than a TW only solution. For me FireFox with Delicious, Ubiquity, Zotero have been working well together for a quite some time.

There are some features of Zotero that, once you have scratched the surface of the problem of, you would be frustrated that TW can't and will not able to perform.

One of the most convenient  is the automatic downloading and filing of PDF files of papers. There is also a search inside PDF feature, so you can search the text of the refs as well. You can publish your refs using a syncing mechanism and also create groups which enable other people to sync their refs.

Another is the export feature: it can export in wikipedia style, so a mediaWiki to TW converter might be a way to get refs into TW.

(I, and many other TW fans / addicts have been sucked into the kind of vortex as it becomes a conduit for imagination - Morris gave a particularly vivid description of this). TW _can_ do everything imaginable but it might take many light years before you acquire the know how and before you know it you have forgotten what you mission was. )

PODCAST
========

I enjoy listening to  Digital Campus ( http://digitalcampus.tv/ ), a podcast from the academic team behind Zotero. They chew the fat around the meaty subject of digital scholarship.

TW PLUGINS
=============
Here is a BibteXt plugin:
http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoare/addons.html#BibTeXPluginDoc


Is it possible to create a macro or upload script that like a "mail merge" that will upload records to Tiddlers from a delimited file.

There is also an create tiddlers from CSV plugin :

http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV



Alex

 



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David

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Jan 7, 2010, 5:53:51 PM1/7/10
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All good suggestions, Mark. It's amazing to me how many tools there
are out there for TW that do one job or another. I'll give these a go!

David

David

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:13:03 PM1/7/10
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Hi Alex, no I had not tried MPTW, but I had looked at it before. I
just tried the tutorial and I can really see the advantages of the
TagglyTagging features. I also really like the layout. I'm going to
spend some more time with it.

I tried Zotero a year or two ago and it never quite stuck, partly
because I use Safari almost exclusively, and partly because I found Z
wasn't quite doing what I wanted. I know it has evolved since then and
I really need to take another look at it.

Great suggestions!

David


On Jan 7, 4:10 pm, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> David,
>
> ROLLING YOU OWN
> =================

> Have you tried MPTW? (http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/) The newHere command in

> I enjoy listening to  Digital Campus (http://digitalcampus.tv/), a podcast


> from the academic team behind Zotero. They chew the fat around the meaty
> subject of digital scholarship.
>
> TW PLUGINS
> =============
> Here is a BibteXt plugin:http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~psoare/addons.html#BibTeXPluginDoc
>
> Is it possible to create a macro or upload script that like a "mail merge"
>
> > that will upload records to Tiddlers from a delimited file.
>
> There is also an create tiddlers from CSV plugin :
>
> http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I just laboriously uploaded content from my Kindle DX clippings.txt file
> > which could easily have been converted to a delimited file using word,
> > textwrangler, or whatever.
>
> > Just a thought.
>

> > Neil Olonoff   olon...@gmail.com


> > Lead, Federal Knowledge Management Initiative,
> > Federal KM Working Group hosted at  http://KM.gov
> > Office:  703.614.5058 (US Army HQDA, G-4/Contracted by Innolog)
> > Mobile: 703.283.4157 (Disabled during working hours)
> > Personal profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/olonoff

> > Blogging athttp://FedKM.org


>
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Alex Hough <r.a.ho...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
> >> I'd use Zotero  to grab the citations: databases offering Endnote metadata
> >> imports into Zotero. They can be then dragged into TW or cut and pasted in
> >> your preferred format.
>
> >> If I am not mistaken, the wikipedia citations added to each page by users
> >> also is available as Zotero data.
>
> >> It would be great if there was a plugin which could add this data to TW. A
> >> kind of TiddlySnip for reference data
>
> >> Alex
>

> >> 2010/1/7 Mark <mckel...@gmail.com>

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JayF

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> I tried Zotero a year or two ago and it never quite stuck, partly
> because I use Safari almost exclusively, and partly because I found Z
> wasn't quite doing what I wanted. I know it has evolved since then and
> I really need to take another look at it.
>

I would agree that Zotero is worth a second look because it has come a
long way in a year. Eventually, you will want your bibliography
database to help you write your dissertation with a cite-as-you-write
feature. Zotero plays well with either Word or Openoffice.


Jay

Ken Girard

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:09:53 PM1/8/10
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Another option for question 1:
Take a look at:
http://no-sin.com/wiki/WorkTracker.html#%5B%5BSearch%20-%20Assigned%20to%5D%5D

Basically, I have it set up to show me a custom field when I am in
edit mode, and then it does the fet search when I close it.

Only issue I have with it is you have to get every thing right. I
can't search for "Elizabeth" and get "Elizabeth Donald" and "Elizabeth
Strout".

Ken Girard

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Måns

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:05:34 PM1/8/10
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Hi Ken

> Basically, I have it set up to show me a custom field when I am in
> edit mode, and then it does the fet search when I close it.

Good idea - I like it!


> Only issue I have with it is you have to get every thing right. I
> can't search for "Elizabeth" and get "Elizabeth Donald" and "Elizabeth Strout".

Have you considered using a listbox (http://www.tiddlytools.com/
#ListboxPlugin) for choosing names to be inserted in the fET? To me It
seems to be an obvious choice in this context. The listboxlist can be
extracted from another fET collecting tiddlertitles based on tags as
well... (As I have understood anyway..)

Regards Måns Mårtensson

cmari

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:44:08 PM1/8/10
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Hi Ken,
Wouldn't it be possible to search for "Elizabeth" and get both results
if you remove
readBracketedList(). from the fEt?
As in:
<<forEachTiddler where 'tiddler.tags.contains("Training") &&
store.getValue(tiddler,"assignedto") && (store.getValue
(tiddler,"assignedto").contains(store.getValue
(context.inTiddler,"searchfield")))'

Or maybe I don't understand the issue entirely?
cmari

On Jan 8, 4:09 pm, Ken Girard <ken.gir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Another option for question 1:

> Take a look at:http://no-sin.com/wiki/WorkTracker.html#%5B%5BSearch%20-%20Assigned%2...

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