storeArea / shadowArea location

[Poul]

I've wondered if there is any good reason (that I have somehow
overlooked) why TiddlyWiki positions the storeArea after the
shadowArea, rather than ahead of it in the body element. It seems to
me that for search engine friendlyness, it should have the storeArea
at the top of the body element, ideally with the tiddlers listed in
DefaultTiddlers topmost.
As it is, if I search for tiddlywiki, the lead text that Bing has
grabbed from TiddlyWiki.org is
<!--{{{--> <link rel='alternate' type='application/rss+xml'
title='RSS' href='index.xml' /> <!--}}}-->

And equally useful, the lead text that google has grabbed from
osmosoft.com for that query is:
These [[InterfaceOptions]] for customising [[TiddlyWiki]] are saved in
your browser Your username for signing your edits. Write it as a
[[WikiWord]] (eg ...

But, before I change giewiki in light of this, I thought, maybe there
is a good reason for the current file layout somewhere.

:-) Poul

[PMario]

I have no idea, if the order is important but here is the template:

https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/html/tiddlywiki.template.html

-m

[Jeremy Ruston]

I think this might be a regression bug; several years ago we made a
number of changes that were aimed at moving the TiddlyWiki content
nearer the top of the file (although we didn't go as far as promoting
the tiddlers mentioned in DefaultTiddlers). This should be a simple
recipe change, and therefore worth investigating. Martin or FND may be
able to remember more details.

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[rakugo]

I don't think this is a regression bug looking through the history...
I think it has always been the case.

https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/commits/5c51ab278244d9015ff7efd19e30b99f3e143256/html/tiddlywiki.template.html

I agree it should be a simple change to this template file and I would
also be in favour of it.

As long as no-one objects would you like to open a ticket for this at
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues, or even better send a
pull request to https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki with the
suggested change?

Best wishes
Jon

On Aug 22, 5:02 pm, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this might be a regression bug; several years ago we made a
> number of changes that were aimed at moving the TiddlyWiki content
> nearer the top of the file (although we didn't go as far as promoting
> the tiddlers mentioned in DefaultTiddlers). This should be a simple
> recipe change, and therefore worth investigating. Martin or FND may be
> able to remember more details.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:45 PM, PMario <pmari...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have no idea, if the order is important but here is the template:
>

> >https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/html/tiddlywiki....

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[Martin Budden]

I think the reason we put the shadow area above the content is because
we thought that it made the TiddlyWiki file more human readable, at a
small cost to SEO. However I agree that SEO is probably more important
now so we can make the change in the next release.

Martin

[Jan Johannpeter]

Hello
I installed the rearrange tiddlers plugin which is very practical so that i do not want to miss it any more.
The only problem is that it makes it difficult to change the tiddlers name for the move to top / move to bottom popup appears as i click the title.
Is there a way to stop this behaviour of the plugin in the edit mode?
Thanks for your help.