Requesting testing for NoteStorm

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi all,

NoteStorm will soon be the sequel to my No-Brainer Notes from last
year. It makes some major improvements on it. But I would like a few
of you to download and play with it, if you are willing.

http://giffmex.org/experiments/NoteStorm.html

What needs changing?
What needs adding? (without it becoming too cluttered)
How do I fix the look of the dropdown tag chooser in the tiddler
toolbar?
Does it look good on other browsers? (I am checking Firefox, Chrome
and IE)
Is anything broken?

I should mention that although NoteStorm uses the Treeview plugin and
various tweaks found in TWT-Treeview executive, it is different from
the treeviews seen to date, because

a. with NoteStorm you do not need to open MainMenu and paste code in
order to add a new topic. Just click on New master topic, give it a
name, then paste the name in two places right in the same tiddler's
text.

b. The instructions are simpler

c. The design is uncluttered and easy on the eyes

d. Added fontsizeplugin

e. There will be a slideshow tutorial soon

f. Weighs in at a light 685kb

Thanks in advance for the comments. Blessings,

Dave Gifford

[Måns]

Hi Dave

Thank you for sharing yet another great and simple noteapp - "it took
me by storm" - if that's an English expression?
In Danish it means that I couldn't stop myself playing around with it
immediately - and I liked the simple and unpretentious looks - just as
I like Morris' very glamourous treeviewadaptions, which is completely
different.
Your variant seems lighter and faster.. It's very nice indeed!
Congratulations.

I have a few things that I have changed in my copy of your document.
I don't like that the new master topics button writes a treeviewmacro
into the tiddler and I don't want the ManinMenu to display everything,
which is written in the tiddlers tagged "Topics" - therefore I did
this:
I made a tiddler which a called TopicsTemplate text:
{{treeview{<<treeview2 "$1" "treeview-gray" 'collapsed: false,
antisesame: "closed", animated: "fast", persist: "cookie", cookieId:
"Topics"'>>}}} (It shows "error with treeview2" - but it's no problem
- wait and see)
I installed TaggedTemplatePlugin and made a new TopicsViewTemplate and
added this:
<div class='viewer' macro='view text wikified'><span macro='tiddler
TopicsTemplate'></span></div>

At last I changed the MainMenu to this:
<<forEachTiddler where 'tiddler.tags.contains("Topics")' write
'"<<tiddler TopicsTemplate with: [["+tiddler.title+"]]$))"'>>

Of course I deleted the macro which was written into each
Topicstiddler and changed the New MasterTopics button from:
<<newTiddler title: 'Give your topic a name here, then paste it below
in both places' tag: 'Topics' label: 'New Master Topic' text:
{{'{{treeview{<<treeview2 "PASTE YOUR TOPICNAME BETWEEN THESE QUOTES"
"treeview-gray" \x27collapsed:false, antisesame: "closed", animated:
"fast", persist: "cookie", cookieId: "PASTE YOUR TOPICNAME HERE WITH
NO SPACES"\x27>\>\x7D\x7D\x7D'}}>>
to:
<<newTiddler title: 'Give your topic a name' tag: 'Topics' label: 'New
Master Topic' >>

That's it - No copying of title needed and the textarea is left
untouched - which is very nice and "uncluttered" ;-)

Regards Måns Mårtensson



On 15 Sep., 17:48, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Dave Gifford]

hmmm, sounds interesting, could you send it to me?

Dave

> On 15 Sep., 17:48, "Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Måns]

Hi Dave

I will - as soon i have tranlated it back to English again - I'm
working in Danish - and I found that problem with the errorcode need
two topicstemplatetiddlers
1) for the mainmenu
and
2) for the topicsviewtemplate

The one for the topicsviewtemplate looks like this instead:
{{treeview{<<treeview2 {{story.findContainingTiddler
(place).getAttribute
('tiddler');}} "treeview-gray" 'collapsed: false,

antisesame: "closed", animated: "fast", persist: "cookie", cookieId:

"Emner"'>>}}}
Then it works exactly as I described..

Give me some minutes - then I will return with a document in English.

Regards Måns Mårtensson

[Måns]

sorry - "Emner" is of course Topics ---- Danish you know...

[Måns]

Hi again Dave

Here it is with my modifications:
http://tinyurl.com/qqv7xl

I've named the two treetemplates: TopicsTemplate1 and TopicsTemplate2.
I had to reinstall TaggedTemplateTweak in your document, to make it
work.

If you don't want to use TaggedTemplateTweak at all - you could simply
omit the treeview display from the tiddlers and only show it in the
mainmenu.
Just make the TopicsTemplate1 and change the mainmenu accordingly.
(Not forgetting to remove the macro from the text in the
MasterTopicsButton)
Again it will "unclutter" your tiddlers and you will still have the
treeview in the mainmenu.

Regards Måns Mårtensson

On 15 Sep., 22:02, Dave Gifford <giff...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Måns]

Hi again, again

I've made a version without the taggedtemplatetweakplugin and without
treeview in the tiddlers.
It is still producing treeviews in the mainmenu - but you have totally
empty tiddlers...
http://tinyurl.com/q3pocl

Regards Måns Mårtensson

On 15 Sep., 22:02, Dave Gifford <giff...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Måns]

Now it's only 678 kb ;-)

On 15 Sep., 23:13, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again, again
>
> I've made a version without the taggedtemplatetweakplugin and without
> treeview in the tiddlers.
> It is still producing treeviews in the mainmenu - but you have totally

> empty tiddlers...http://tinyurl.com/q3pocl

[Dave Gifford]

Mans

WOW! That's awesome! I hope you don't mind if I use it as is. I'm
giving you a mention in the acknowledgements section. Thank you for
that vast improvement.

No, I don't know Danish, but I have read some books by Kierkegaard!
That's all I know about Denmark, unfortunately.

We use the expression you mentioned "take by storm", but not usually
for individuals. We say "It's taking the world by storm" as in it's
becoming very popular. Maybe NoteStorm will take the world by storm?
But not until I can figure out my dropdown problem...

Thanks

Dave

[wolfgang]

Hi Dave,b

> But not until I can figure out my dropdown problem...
>

It's caused by QuickOpenTagPlugin, put this in your StyleSheet:

.popup li .tagger a{display:inline}

Regards..

[Måns]

Great that you can use my ideas.
You don't have to mention my name in acknowledgements (of course I
would be very proud - but...) - you'd have to mention a lot of other
people on this group who helped me find out how to do this..
So please mention TiddlyWiki googleGroups for beeing such a great and
active community ;-)

Søren Kierkegaard was one of the greatest personalities and
philosophers of all times ... Did you know that he almost never slept
(a little like Eric Shulman you know ;-)) He did all his writings at
night - in the daytime he wandered the streets of Copenhagen, because
he knew he had to pay his respects - make visits and say hello to as
many people as he could - to become famous and stay in touch (control)
with the "high society" .... Copenhagen was very small then - and and
he wandered a different routes every day to get as much around as he
possibly could...
A very special person he was... Single and economically independent
being a rich grocers only son...

Have a nice day - and I look forward to see your final version..

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Mat]

I would like to see a way to add a subtopic directly via the tagtree
menu, i.e there could be a little + sign just to the right of each
tiddler name listed in the tree.

Also, I think the paradigm with the menu on the left is not very
practical (albeit common) as one is forced to sweep with the mouse
over the screen a lot for when scrolling up and down. I'd rather have
the tree menu on the right, collapsable, AND the usual sidebar on the
right, collapsable.

Looks promising!

/Mat

[Dave Gifford]

/Mat

I like the idea of the plus sign to add a subtopic, but it looks like
it is probably beyond me. You are talking about creating a new tiddler
tagged as one tiddler but inside the text of the third. The new
tiddler macro tags new tiddlers based on where the new one comes from,
not where it's headed. I'm going to have to pass on that one, unless
someone else decides to figure out a way to do such a thing.

On the plus side, the truth is that you shouldn't have to scroll too
much unless you have a single category with heaps of notes. But
normally you will subdivide that long list into smaller subtopics, so
each list should be somewhat short. I just added a heap of tiddlers to
play with NoteStorm as a to-do list, and didn't have to scroll.
Opening one sublist closes the others.

Dave

[Dave Gifford]

Mans

>
> Søren Kierkegaard was one of the greatest personalities and
> philosophers of all times ...

He also happens to be my favorite, especially since I am a Christian.
I've read Fear and Trembling, Attack Upon Christendom, and bits and
pieces from a site called Provocations. Great stuff! His life is quite
fascinating too, if tragic, what with the curse, and his fiance, his
falling out with an editor, his falling out with the Danish church,
and his untimely death.

Dave

[FND]

> NoteStorm will soon be the sequel to my No-Brainer Notes

This looks pretty slick, Dave - good job!

-- F.

[Dave Gifford]

Thanks Fred

I uploaded the lastest revision with Mans' change and also Wolfgang's
fix for the dropdown.

Dave

[Dave Gifford]

Hi all,

I am getting closer. There are still a couple things left to do on it.
But here is the most recent revision of NoteStorm, including

Updated documentation
A slideshow tutorial embedded from Slideshare.net
Fixed Quickedit toolbar issues
AnnotationPlugin

Please play and then offer feedback

http://giffmex.org/experiments/NoteStorm.html

Dave