Example Empty Story message Tip

[TonyM]

Folks,

When you close all tiddlers you get a empty Story, try this tip

• Create a tiddler $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage and place the following in it.
• Now close all you tiddlers

<h2>All tiddlers have being closed</h2>

<h3>Go home {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}} or open this view in a new window {{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}, tiddlers opened will open here</h3>

<h3>or Search </h3>{{$:/core/ui/SideBarSegments/search}}

<h4>[[Edit this view|$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage]]</h4>

<h2>Advanced Search</h2>

{{$:/AdvancedSearch}}

<hr>

{{TableOfContents}}

Try the Open in new window button I have provided, it works like a remote control.

One Bug!

The buttons do not render their icons in the new window 

Anyone know a fix?

This assumes you have a table of contents setup but works regardless.

Regards

Tony

[Mat]

Cool! I was not aware of $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage (btw, "these things" - whatever that means - are usually done via special system tags but not this one. I wonder why.)

One Bug!

The buttons do not render their icons in the new window 

Seems to work for me: Win/Chrome. Maybe it's a browser issue. I have a vague memory of it being brought up previously. Maybe there's an issue report?

<:-)

[Mohammad]

On FF 77. I confirm the issue reported by Tony! Not working either by me.

<:-)

[TonyM]

I have a memory of this having a work around, but needing a fix.

<style>
{{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base}}
</style>

I tried import the page variables and transclude the theme styles;

\import [[$:/core/ui/PageMacros]] [all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[$:/tags/Macro]!has[draft.of]]

All that is missing is the images for the button which are typically transcluded in a button using

class=<<tv-config-toolbar-class>>

But no solution YET

Regards

Tony

[Mohammad]

Tony!

 Why not they work in NEW WINDOWS?

I would like to know Jeremy opinion?

I have encountered the same problem. Example

Goto

https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/#Tutorial%20Title%20Page

and open it in a new window! No formatting will be seen!

Seems all formatting and customization applied using $:/tags/ViewTemplate, and user class field are ignored.

--Mohammad

[TonyM]

Folks,

It was fixed in this https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4372 issue and is now fixed in the pre-release.

I am now exploring making a couple of smart tests given;

1. When all tiddlers closed

currentTiddler="" storyTiddler=""

2. When editing 

<<currentTiddler>>=<<storyTiddler>>

3. When in own window

currentTiddler=Tiddler in window storyTiddler=""

So I can hide the message

All tiddlers have being closed

Except in case 1 above.

Regards

Tony

[A Gloom]

Good thing it was fixed, this is far as I got with it in the past-- got icons to display but it involved hacking out button code (applied to Tony's code)

<h2>All tiddlers have being closed</h2>
<h3>Go home <$transclude tiddler="$:/core/ui/Buttons/home" mode="inline"/> xx{{$:/core/images/home-button}}xx <br/>
xx1<$button message="tm-home" tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Hint}} aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Caption}} class=<<tv-config-toolbar-class>>>
<$list filter="[<tv-config-toolbar-icons>match[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/home-button}}
</$list>
<$list filter="[<tv-config-toolbar-text>match[yes]]">
<span class="tc-btn-text"><$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Caption}}/></span>
</$list>
</$button>xx1 &nbsp;
xx2<$button message="tm-home" tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Hint}} aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Caption}} class=<<tv-config-toolbar-class>>>
{{$:/core/images/home-button}}
</$button>xx2 &nbsp;
xx3<$button message="tm-home" tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Hint}} aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/Home/Caption}} class="tc-btn-rounded">
{{$:/core/images/home-button}}
</$button>xx3<br/>

or open this view in a new window {{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}, tiddlers opened will open here</h3>

<h3>{{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}}</h3>

[Mohammad]

For me it does not work!

[A Gloom]

Mohammad

For me it does not work!

Are you referring to the transclusion problem Tony mentioned or the one you're having with https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/#Tutorial%20Title%20Page?

I haven't had the chance to look at it but could once I get back up-- looking at problems like these I do cause it helps me learn TW's inner workings.

[Mohammad]

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 5:59:25 PM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:

Mohammad

For me it does not work!

Are you referring to the transclusion problem Tony mentioned or the one you're having with https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlyshow/#Tutorial%20Title%20Page?

I mean this! When you open a slide in a new window no formatting works. User class, formatting through conditional viewtemplate,...

[TonyM]

Mohammad

The open in new window fix is only in prerelease. If you are still getting something can you What a minimal example we can try on prerelease.

Regards
Tony

[HC Haase]

This is neat... i think, I am not sure if I will use it or not.

I find the wording a bit confusing, so here is an alternative version. I have also added a new tiddler button.

<h2>All tiddlers have been closed</h2>
<h3>Go home {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}} or open this view in a new window {{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}, tiddlers will open here.</h3>
<h3>Create a new tiddler {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}} or Search </h3>{{$:/core/ui/SideBarSegments/search}}

<h4>[[Edit this view|$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage]]</h4>
<h2>Advanced Search</h2>
{{$:/AdvancedSearch}}
<hr>
{{TableOfContents}}

I also find two searchbars a bit redundant so here is a verison with only one

<h2>All tiddlers have been closed</h2>
<h3>Go home {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/home}} or open this view in a new window {{$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage||$:/core/ui/Buttons/open-window}}, tiddlers will open here.</h3>
<h3>Create a new tiddler {{$:/core/ui/Buttons/new-tiddler}} or Search </h3>{{$:/AdvancedSearch}}
([[Edit this view|$:/config/EmptyStoryMessage]])

<h3>Table of Contents</h3>
{{TableOfContents}}

[HC Haase]

Perhaps it would be an idea to put this config in the control panel, like the Text for new journal tiddlers??

[Mohammad]

Hi Tony!

I have attached a working example to show the issue!

Goto https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/

drag and drip the attached json

Look at the Test-New-Win, it has a red border

Now open it in the new window, you wont see that borders!

I see all formatting and customization through user class and ViewTemplate are ignored!

--Mohammad

[TonyM]

Mohammad

Perhaps we could start a new thread on open in new window.

One thing to keep in mind is open in new window is only rendering the text field of the tiddler. I depend on this to print specific tiddler content to pdf as an example. We do not see the view template buttons etc. Perhaps it is this which is giving apparently inconsistent results?

I need to give this a little more thought.

Tony

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

Yes, I looked at your example and the elements present on a tiddler through the story or view template are not included in the new window, just the text field. 

This is a desirable behaviour but we could easily have alternate open in new window buttons that include extended elements.

Try this, open 

$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story and open it in new window.

 

I created a Move to new window button, works the same as open in new window, but closes the tiddler in the story automaticaly.

Regards

Tony

[TonyM]

Thanks for Sharing HC

Re "config in the control panel"

Yes, perhaps with a simple default message and the home button?

Regards

Tony

[Mohammad]

Good idea Tony!

I follow up the new thread!

--Mohammad

[Mohammad]

Tony!

On Tuesday, January 21, 2020 at 12:08:54 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:

Mohammad,

Yes, I looked at your example and the elements present on a tiddler through the story or view template are not included in the new window, just the text field. 

This is a desirable behaviour but we could easily have alternate open in new window buttons that include extended elements.

Try this, open 

$:/core/ui/PageTemplate/story and open it in new window.

 

So, I need to have a custom button in tiddler view toolbar!