Mashup of TiddlyWiki and PersonalBrain

[Josef]

Some may find this an intriguing MashUp. Essentially in the PB the
unit of microcontent is the Thought. So, there may be some synergy in
letting thoughts contain wikis. And in wikis containing Brains (via
linking or embedding) or pointing to Brain Thoughts. This raises
interesting possibilities.

Note, I am not affiliated with theBrain, Inc. I just use the product.

--- Josef Betancourt

I posted this idea at: http://forums.thebrain.com/tool/post/thebrain/vpost?id=2015054
QUOTE
July 12, 2007 at 07:47 AM
Wikis can be powerful resources. As an experiment I wanted to test
one method of embedding a wiki into PB4. Embedding here means having
a thought open an editable wiki within the Brain (the wiki is in the
Brain, not another server).

Which wiki? There is a type of wiki that does not need a server.
These fit into the category called "single page application" (SPA).
One of the best is called TiddlyWiki. See its wikimedia entry here.

Process
1. Download a blank version of TiddlyWiki page. I attached a wiki
I'm starting on buying a used car, so its essentially blank, like my
bank account.
2. Import it into Brain at a thought. I did this with a control-
drag&drop.
3. Click on the thought to open the wiki. In options menu of wiki
turn off "save backups", or the Brain's thought will start showing
these as attachments.

Thats it. Now when you activate that thought the wiki opens. when
you save the wiki changes, they go back into the Brain.

Advantages
Rich easy to learn wiki language for editing. Hypermedia within a
page. This gives the Brain another degree of freedom or axis. An
alternative to the built-in editor.

--- Josef Betancourt
END-QUOTE

[FND]

> Some may find this an intriguing MashUp. Essentially in the PB the
> unit of microcontent is the Thought. So, there may be some synergy in
> letting thoughts contain wikis. And in wikis containing Brains (via
> linking or embedding) or pointing to Brain Thoughts. This raises
> interesting possibilities.

Since I've never heard of PersonalBrain before, I'm afraid I can't
really relate to this in any meaningful way...

-- F.

[Josef]

Your right, someone who never heard of theBrain or similar
applications would see this as noise. I just didn't want to make a
laborious post.

PersonalBrain 4 (PB4) [http://www.thebrain.com/#-110] is a cross-
platform information management application that uses a uniquly simple
yet powerful visual structure. Some may think it falls into the
traditional Mind Mapping or Context Mapping category but I don't think
so. Each Node in this non-hierarchical structure can contain multiple
attachments and links. The mashup is that these "thoughts" can also
contain TiddlyWiki instances. So the non-linear accessibility and
creation of information has another dimension available.

PersonalBrain version 4.0 is now in beta and available in three
version: Free, Core, and Pro. See: http://www.thebrain.com/#-110

[FND]

> PersonalBrain 4 (PB4) [http://www.thebrain.com/#-110] is a cross-
> platform information management application that uses a uniquly simple
> yet powerful visual structure.

I just took a brief look at this YouTube video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QP3d7P4AERg

Doesn't look bad - but their thoughts are my tags, for the most part.
The visual structure is kinda nice, though Dawn's HypergraphPackage*
does a very similar thing.

-- F.

* http://project.dahukanna.net/tiddlywiki/twextensions.htm

[Josef]

Awesome TiddlyWiki extension. I wonder if it works in latest
version? First I hear of it. I wonder if there is some kind of mime
for this approach. And, if the graph is only showing tags internal to
the wiki page, then this is not what I was referring to as the mashup.

Yes, there are many of these graph applications, like TouchGraph for
example. What it comes down to is a balance of ease of use and
utility.

[dawn ahukanna]

Josef,
I have been using Personal Brain since version 2 and the Hypergraph extension was inspired by MindMap visualisation in general and using it with the PersonalBrain exporter which generates an xml definition.

I'm SLOWLY (work is taking all my time !!!) updating my plugins to TiddlyWiki 2.2.4. I'll announce it here when they are ready.

>And, if the graph is only showing tags internal to the wiki page,
>then this is not what I was referring to as the mashup.

Each tiddler has one or more tags directly assigned to it. How would the external tags be related to tiddlers on a Page?

Dawn.

--
http://dahukanna.net

[Josef]

quote: "Each tiddler has one or more tags directly assigned to it.

How would the
external tags be related to tiddlers on a Page? "

They wouldn't? I was not making a tech or usability comment on your
approach. Just commenting that it does not seem to be related to the
Brain/Tiddler combo I was discussing.

On Jul 15, 1:54 pm, "dawn ahukanna" <dawn.ahuka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Josef,
> I have been using Personal Brain since version 2 and the Hypergraph
> extension was inspired by MindMap visualisation in general and using it with
> the PersonalBrain exporter which generates an xml definition.
>
> I'm SLOWLY (work is taking all my time !!!) updating my plugins to
> TiddlyWiki 2.2.4. I'll announce it here when they are ready.
>
> >And, if the graph is only showing tags internal to the wiki page,
> >then this is not what I was referring to as the mashup.
>
> Each tiddler has one or more tags directly assigned to it. How would the
> external tags be related to tiddlers on a Page?
>
> Dawn.
>

[dawn ahukanna]

Josef,
You are right. The HyperTiddlyWiki Plugin has no direct relationship to using TiddlyWiki within Personal Brain.
Dawn.

On 7/15/07, Josef < josef.be...@gmail.com> wrote:

--
http://dahukanna.net

[Josef]

Yes, that's what I thought. I think I see it more as an
implementation of the original (?) concept of TopicMaps, in particular
as presented in "The Tao of Topic Maps". So, a plex graph, as the
Brain, implements the high level topic view, and the instances of each
topic are in wiki pages. What I think is the key here is that the
wiki pages can then also point up to the topic plex. This is the
hyperdimensions I am referring to.

On Jul 15, 2:41 pm, "dawn ahukanna" <dawn.ahuka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Josef,

> You are right. The HyperTiddlyWiki Plugin has no direct relationship to
> using TiddlyWiki within Personal Brain.
> Dawn.
>

[DaveG]

Hi,

> Doesn't look bad - but their thoughts are my tags, for the most

I have a (very) big brain file from the time before TW, I still want
to import it some time into my TW.

I looked into it a bit and gave up at the point I realised the brain
has lots of RTF files which are what we would call the tiddler-
content.
I couldn't see a practical way of pulling that info in.

I also looked at hypergraph, and I didn't try Dawn's plugin yet, but
in The Brain I had tired of the layout there - it is restricted. In
the sense that pareants are above, children below and 'jumps' to the
left. The hypergraph display seems more flexible.
Often I looking for something I don't care about the hierachical
structure (because I often can't remember how I set it up; true when i
see it i say - oh yes obviously...) and it gets in the way.

However now I have a big Tiddlywiki with a lot of Unix tips etc., I
certainly look for a easier way to look through many tiddlers.
The tag map is good but I do miss the zooming brain...

I am hoping that one day I can put both my Brain file and my TW into a
Tinderbox document (www.eastgate.com/tinderbox/ ). TB has the
advantage of many different views, although no dynamic is supplied.

Dave

[DaveG]

OOOH - I see theBrain not only jumped to version 4 while I was away -
there is also a MacOS version.

The landscape get smore interesting by the day.

Dave

[Josef]

And, it has the 'expanded' mode you were mentioning as lacking. So,
now it has Normal, Distant, and Expanded views.